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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.7 Y3 d& m1 e6 j- n* C

! p- k6 |' l; ?6 q2 \) {; OTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ; I" e( n  V( G% T% ]

0 v6 U+ k: j- @4 O/ I"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.6 S+ H* C  b4 l2 N0 @/ p! h4 m
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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  g0 F" N$ g- q  Z7 G+ T"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 4 \, b: g; R- q! u# T
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.: y4 c  V8 N9 r

# X( L0 s- _+ I9 [4 t  ~: gMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 0 N  Z8 Y$ ?" }, W# p
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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2 v* x6 [& y9 _8 k[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
6 ?" w, c. P2 Q  @) s: n 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
$ \' A2 ^  r6 I( v6 ^9 `跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

, P' N6 \  k& I, k3 }1 K很多人都回学校深造去了
; N8 Q: J; O* r% n* B1 i0 t嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta' r5 k) n- i/ {. ^4 U9 B. Z' q
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its7 l# I$ I1 q4 [& B
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
: H+ D8 [1 o8 }/ {; T' tare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to0 {0 h" `: a! ]
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household& D! X, q8 D, ]0 U: R( a
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided4 w6 M+ H6 r! x- L' a/ ?% P* G1 n
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,7 T* ]( T& K; X; X: e8 I% l
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
/ b1 Q6 J/ M/ mmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous3 E2 A; K% L! A6 m6 T- `( h3 X
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed/ ]4 w4 W' j# I
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this; e) s' Q0 r. n# e0 S. ?
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
9 B  Q! c. z6 fhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
/ d& a* j8 W/ f30,000 new households will form in the province during
- w7 G. O" Y2 b" h2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
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homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%9 n" N5 h4 J2 D& q
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta; L! I, m- l1 S; I7 k5 R$ R. m. N/ _  M
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new9 J9 }* @: `$ U! p
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals0 e: l1 l5 K3 J' P3 D. \
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
# N; L" H6 R; Z1 _sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
9 O* X: Q: Z: S1 U1 O5 fclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is7 u, P/ S7 T$ o$ ^: X9 E
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of0 f, R$ o+ G% H
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
/ y, O( G8 V  x! Z. Vsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive6 p2 I& Y4 X" B: I5 T4 l
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in5 c4 [# I( r0 I' {, B
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
4 o5 K7 X; j8 @- k, E' B  t/ Qunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747* S- d; Y/ h1 b0 F5 ?! L  s5 ~
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
: @% C  x- r2 _  A! Z0 Nrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
8 r: i. H# a) D$ w) mresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s% i' N" P- _1 h. x  l
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
1 A5 h& u- k0 ]0 nThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
" x% a2 L: J1 _  Fboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic., c! E% R; J- t6 c6 y
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan% [$ V, x8 K# X: }
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even# X6 {1 j5 N. [  M5 _% Q. q/ Y
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
. _& a2 k& `2 [! J& ?% sresale price in February is evidence that past prices
+ o2 N9 ]* `( Cexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
& }8 s0 x0 S: e: |6 Ehomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’+ D3 F; A8 j& p  u( Q- y* g5 S& b
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,, c3 z- t/ p9 U
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,4 ~0 i( g( v. }, M1 g) c8 n
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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, l6 E4 k4 ?3 B+ ?[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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. x2 A4 E" S4 `7 Q: jhttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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