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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane0 `( I. N5 F" R/ h
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"* }5 r7 Q/ V+ E& b6 K  O& j
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).; I" c! y; L1 ^+ O. f% V& }
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
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她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:" M% j( H5 ^' m- [9 Q
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
7 e3 t+ z: T3 T( g; @* ~She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,9 l6 G- u: f* S7 Q5 R
but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
6 Z6 \, F1 w/ }2 @/ U5 yto get out of our government and to get out of our lives.) K9 K+ z( |, `6 s$ j
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
0 D! T  O, @7 p& WHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection+ w6 E9 n" K! |( H- U, x
if we demand He leave us alone?"
, t1 y- ^( }4 q9 d4 @& \& D『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
( d: m: Z2 ^' [& [; @+ w, {只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
4 ?& Y4 P3 l# Q2 c8 l不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。) I8 N% @' O1 L
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。
( G- H) S' w* [" a+ g- f( z我們既然強令祂遠離我們,3 P3 \2 Y4 N' F( [
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』$ I; K$ _, W$ S& R+ r9 {% c

" V5 G7 I' O. M; f# a( FIn light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
' \# x$ L7 G- l8 V$ E( jI think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,1 X+ f$ V- Q" o  O
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our& ~" S4 w# Y- }2 t
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in$ n6 j1 i) c( F% L9 a$ ^
school...# {5 N$ a: f% `" j5 ?; h0 W
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
' B; V: n( |- h5 G, Dand love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
) z! J5 b' C% r) _+ w" r) n2 j看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,) ]5 U+ s/ o4 T5 R2 U" U: i
我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
9 k8 n1 x7 d: P+ X8 r# ~(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
1 z: I1 ~# q- n! S3 |最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
& F+ @/ ~& H/ K' i$ {& a7 w, q要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。7 q# H* a* ^2 V3 I6 v

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0 O# O0 z/ S1 U; [Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children$ [% K& d8 `$ p% `8 S  i0 @( V
when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
; {0 A: X/ [% C2 o2 Y% Band we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
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We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
0 `. h. X7 {5 P* C8 g) i2 B然後Benjamin Spock博士說,2 k/ e7 f! Y5 \/ G
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,3 s- I7 n" M$ |5 k+ c( O( n* o# `
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊
; Y4 y7 f) p& J% m( Y8 f3 ~( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。/ Z2 o, [9 J# |: \0 C, z
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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our( A# ?2 ?" |; g: ]$ W' p
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member
" ]9 `9 U" F: ]# e0 Fin this school better touch a student when they misbehave0 u- z8 z% ^6 q* r: J" H
because we don 't want any bad publicity,
% N. j, ]5 H5 D' [% A- X# pand we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
( ~8 S, [8 J$ F; P+ m% g8 d8 X/ @# lbetween disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,# W8 I! P9 n: v: Q8 m) x
etc.). And we said OK.
! G6 F$ l- b) |8 m: A+ ]然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
8 {3 V7 M. ^+ u% z( D+ N老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
& s- }; h7 |) n4 x  G! S教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
8 C+ E8 b) p; h; P. e3 n7 `1 A更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),
" J9 ^( R! Y2 Y/ ]: q& q而大家同意了。
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,* ^1 V" Y% q: e- W& ^
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
" ], M% Z5 v* e$ P9 k4 BThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys5 g) X) i6 _4 {3 [
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms6 K# W2 U/ ~7 m! a0 x& c
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,% `0 ?0 O; ?- ~3 z; M/ w, F! ^
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we! b7 ~# h. H2 o0 D6 j- `! N
said OK.
: Q" ^5 x' ?8 }% C) Z% `; [% t, ?% Q然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,6 K8 F6 v" U3 i1 ?! I% y
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。; K7 L* g3 j- t6 K7 F7 Z0 I1 W6 c) j" X
然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
5 J- F! N2 x, @* C- S, V他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
: j( {1 U  o, t好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道- _: C1 J' m! f% t+ K" `) x+ V
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter
' D& n' l$ v8 M# V$ u& S/ d$ xwhat we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,& c' T: Q7 O3 V& s
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
3 U+ `1 j" f: q8 T' f/ D7 s! m, s0 ndoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good., F) m4 c  X; T- ?! F. a. I
然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,& H3 ?( s8 K  |* r$ R# b( {
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,+ g) d0 i& x+ b7 g6 |% s" a
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
9 [+ m7 h7 ]0 ]3 i5 b6 Y9 g只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
4 o! p; {" `: k+ |and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
5 |- q5 s  C* x$ [, w- B8 Hof the female body. And we said OK.. |3 `* Q$ `3 G6 C: ]/ L
然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
# @( G5 H' ]. s) [" m0 |' s稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and" g4 Q8 P, z0 Q5 m9 }+ y
published pictures of nude children and then further again8 [  }. p- h6 P
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,+ s, c3 J2 S9 w3 R! g6 w4 j) Q# ]
they're entitled to free speech.2 o1 k2 e" i7 Q0 P4 |
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,1 Y+ P$ |4 R* h" T/ O
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
3 G* X( x' K6 a$ ^他們這樣做是言論自由。
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1 i4 }) k( g# h+ XThen the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies/ {% C# e) r3 ?) A0 j  q) U
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music$ b% {% k9 F( I& s9 |# h- k* P
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.9 N  H+ s! @2 g
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
% C3 U5 o! i( I) W" {. b2 knobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
/ c% _" x8 M$ P+ P% ^9 k然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
$ h$ z: `2 Z2 b1 F/ T4 o/ y不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、0 t+ N% J: A( K0 k
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:1 x7 F! |6 h1 a4 a  [. B3 o
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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. L' L$ e1 u% b  w4 mNow we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
  M/ K0 {1 x; D' swhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them7 L, C5 p9 i; K* ^( Y, D3 l
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,8 J' D- T# t) n' J' O( q
if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out." ~+ T4 Y6 \8 K# R
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."3 s& S) u5 O5 E5 `" y0 g1 L6 }
如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?* R4 ?/ e% m5 }5 p
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?! ~0 G' ]  f0 P# o6 J- V
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
- w9 s/ P. R& L. i7 b# Y假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。
( X. }; b% y/ G/ y我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。$ ~2 X; F) S/ i
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Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder+ l: {& I1 U; M2 O6 v% q" d
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers7 T5 C1 v& Z+ f2 M, Z
say, but question what the Bible says.$ ]. Z+ l2 |, ?4 ?1 ~9 R
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
! U3 i. N0 y; H! e% J4 Y實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。2 M4 w9 u5 B' G' X7 f  _
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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
1 N1 d$ y/ f+ V, ?wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
3 a) W" `8 t9 ?& a) Apeople think twice about sharing.
6 e" e" G, v% t6 o實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
, D: K5 s% f  |  j$ s6 t& C/ l% _但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,. K  r1 U7 O' ?7 Q
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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  m2 c0 p7 m) n" I+ ?Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely- a4 g0 e# B; D7 _& s
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed
; v( [( F- I+ oin the school and workplace.% l0 L( c6 L' g0 E) ~6 o6 G
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章3 H. Q; ]: ^5 E( v* E  m+ m/ E* Z" b# W
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
  w9 i: r4 W  E2 H1 S% T而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。9 h8 ?* ^# k3 N2 \

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2 i; a4 h: O5 E9 S' K1 E4 H6 sAre you laughing?- `  ^9 M8 {) o' t; \
你笑了嗎?
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7 @1 P( D2 P5 H0 K0 n' I4 R. TFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it" N% D( ~4 P# g# B2 s$ l
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,+ B3 [2 G8 A; T! _9 z
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.
$ D7 U; K3 P0 KFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us3 `: |2 C( w2 T4 \
than what God thinks of us.* E% @/ ^5 `4 s( y
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,% t8 \  s1 l3 h8 ]  _/ E6 u5 i
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,4 b8 P% P6 L! |+ l* f4 X
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
! T2 H; H2 O( b! i2 K可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,3 X% j6 t" @2 Z: v# _' T
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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. a6 r$ R7 w) M' Z: uPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
/ I3 Z$ X! \3 q3 o/ T: Ino one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't
1 L+ F( D" ~. s0 _( m" |sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
- Q9 n* \$ j! a, {' g1 @# W把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話) h: u" ^% P5 x0 d
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
% o9 Y$ K4 `* A- _8 t& W. R但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
  V* \/ z! d) O/ o0 h3 S5 b你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。0 }* l# t4 g9 C4 [" b
  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
" d  _9 X  M# h- ]有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。# p- E0 f* t& {/ q6 B. G$ d7 K  S
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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$ ^7 L+ w' Z: b* z3 W/ O所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。% S4 @8 U* z; P. ]$ J

* [. \* A  y' k. a8 r& k: i社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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