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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞% v% `, p# T1 q# r

% k8 X: P  \4 gBilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane5 r0 w  F) v1 C. Q
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
) G4 s9 n9 \9 \  k1 I4 i6 E2 N8 V(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11)./ n& O* O$ d# ?0 n
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:7 G9 G4 g, X0 b- U  }" [
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?/ m3 H: j$ b1 D
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:
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# l0 H) r: p9 p$ i1 rAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.3 b& j  d8 v: |! e8 Z# Q3 M9 S+ Z
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
( X. m5 f8 E" k4 |- h0 q3 |but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
5 N  l, D4 D5 |to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.: W* }+ V4 g( O; Y5 p0 i/ q! \% B
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.0 f5 I( d% G! S. |3 L: ?
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
* D7 ~  X) }( B/ `if we demand He leave us alone?"
# O$ I" _, `; P5 \『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;7 B6 k- z6 W! }5 a2 T" `/ D
只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
% C1 k# ~) z' a( |% E4 @7 q不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。! f$ ?# J# ?" t4 @
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。% B) M- I/ z8 a
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,, q2 ^+ P" s" f% i
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
$ U* d( O6 C5 c( FI think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
9 e9 M+ I3 A1 @1 i" Ther body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our: U% t) `4 W# U7 R" q& m. K
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
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the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,+ a. i. ~9 x; u0 O" M; F
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
5 ]% J3 a0 A& F7 R2 d看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
% z5 K+ Q9 A% W6 f4 l: ?% n( J我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
4 \3 }* y1 Q1 G) u(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,! o8 D+ \) G. u2 H3 C
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、- B0 L' _1 f9 ?: B/ F. n! `8 c/ B
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。* b- t1 s1 a' b( E. b$ |
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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
6 q2 \$ A( a: {when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped) K& {. |; D& n7 P
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
$ f  P6 x5 B0 osuicide)3 L1 i0 |; H" T* F
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
0 x7 d0 e0 U+ E8 N3 \然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
& L- u1 H& [9 A0 @5 J我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,/ u( _7 K3 C1 x
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊1 X; U; G  O7 _% i
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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, ~. F, I/ G- xThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our
4 U: N/ D  V. v& nchildren when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member3 l" W0 K  ~. n7 B. c% Y7 ^
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave) H8 C! O) Q( v; p
because we don 't want any bad publicity,! f6 r, b3 A7 l( @
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
/ F8 @: ~5 `) k' Mbetween disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,$ u. P% S( v: J; z9 \6 ^
etc.). And we said OK.
, R+ h( o& l$ w然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,- C6 p9 Y: n& Q+ \& x
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
- N& @/ X$ r8 F) B教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
1 E/ ~, F9 W7 J# |% G更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),6 S& U) }' J& P+ j8 F; G; m
而大家同意了。/ F1 l% l7 A6 U! Z; I% q, @5 _

- Q' `9 Y, x% R" lThen someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,
8 o8 y' V  F' v+ ]  [5 xand they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
7 T1 P& S2 [2 L: [) B8 ]Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys$ [7 k7 t* h/ i( C7 V& C/ L
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
% k1 c8 O6 Y" k: V; T- hthey want so they can have all the fun they desire,
# U0 z# q( Y, ?. K4 j- Vand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
$ D$ }6 |; v2 m, ~% Q4 T* B9 psaid OK.
: E! _( B2 d- c4 A然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
1 H' [9 V; I9 G" [1 w8 E% w: Z2 b' V甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。6 ?7 D. F7 x' |5 o! n' i; ~
然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,, T% d- ^0 ~4 h) C6 m. C9 T  ?
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
8 W7 u  H# d4 l$ X/ L好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道4 ~( Q$ q8 F' @8 [! }8 x5 t
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。# t) C; K0 }" X: e% ^  s

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Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter- M- L+ d( ]6 C4 H
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,
$ g4 r" u* ]$ ~9 g9 e1 t, K- S9 fwe said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
7 [4 q! T7 P7 o, U3 V- }) idoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
7 h8 E' U" {$ h$ A4 K然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,: J: d; l) v/ c7 D  u6 X. _; Q% ~" [
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
  _. [; p* D. k  l; F8 o/ G; _. X" h任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
) S2 k. Q, Y2 w- g, _! j  E% O只要我有工作而且經濟看好。/ P+ g2 z5 m9 T

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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women4 O: ~% N% b3 U$ G' e5 v: n( \8 ?
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty8 {2 D1 y/ Z# Q! d2 }: p
of the female body. And we said OK.
7 z7 b2 S2 Y# ~9 R( p然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,/ c: e  Z- f' r
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。9 e) d- e4 b9 _# r* n6 L" F4 b

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9 a- F2 Y+ }- c1 L" M) tAnd then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
' \- n0 A; L: Z% j2 `1 epublished pictures of nude children and then further again# D: Q* w* T" o+ ~5 |% O$ D5 N1 k
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,; Z2 |6 r5 h( M; E% W
they're entitled to free speech.. R) H% s5 h) X
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,& }# y0 F) w* C0 I8 R
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,. P8 e8 Z, a5 n! o8 v% e% T$ H
他們這樣做是言論自由。
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
" p* U: }8 }. o8 b' s0 vthat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
* V; I: Q6 c" uthat encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.$ c9 B# L3 X: n! k/ C& _
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
* L; E) v( p, `2 M7 F% Nnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.# ^( x* C5 N4 K3 R9 D
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
  o; \- j8 d: l: ~! X# r不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、* }  ?) |5 y4 Y0 j
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:& ~* M% ]' G, R; k
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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- s5 z4 i# e4 J- E* @Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
! ]6 |/ S3 i% X3 ~* hwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
3 ]+ G+ n' \0 ]' B0 ^( R9 m8 rto kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,. o; w* n$ Y' v! s
if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
) ^5 i# J; ]0 Y) g9 WI think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
7 K- w  y  T4 O2 y/ e8 @* u+ Z如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?3 h! U% v7 _) j  C7 r
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?4 V) q$ M0 U3 X5 r9 K% q
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?7 V8 J6 l' o7 g  R
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。2 D' K1 w4 _6 L- h
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。/ S1 o& @8 K% {5 ^1 W

. @- N* ~9 u/ ?/ Y7 B* l- H- j( XFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder; p. K4 {" S) b4 w% g
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
5 V+ D' S6 D. R( O  y$ Msay, but question what the Bible says." t; O# O% Y, \8 k6 U3 D7 P; |
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
* K2 u: {* q" y2 x$ H0 u3 Z實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。- y! b6 ^2 T& r" b  m" q$ G

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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like# ]: V# P& T4 c( k
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,1 d& i+ c9 w' M
people think twice about sharing.
5 e" B; M8 }' H# A實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;% d4 n2 q: V1 j
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
  F9 V- G, A5 u人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。) L$ d. g$ K% o* ?

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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
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in the school and workplace.
2 y  x+ s7 a8 n) F) W, a實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章" z% O2 F, j- q# }$ h. i
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;& @7 v, }4 S7 g
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。2 n2 y; x' V0 b6 E& b) Y( W# T

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& @" D1 e. ~5 j: y, ~Are you laughing?
8 p+ U7 b+ x. d% l8 I' \+ B你笑了嗎?
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, q; J/ C/ R8 r2 V2 @6 B: bFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
8 l) O( c( I* G# K3 t9 fto many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,( U" a& h" K4 g- }0 u
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.$ D# y6 n8 J4 E5 l8 N3 X% F8 O
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
! k- X, `; X: e! X' L; sthan what God thinks of us.: @- N0 ]" u0 d9 K4 b7 Q# m
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,. L0 A& O1 i5 C, p3 f1 _8 Z7 Q
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,7 S1 ^% \0 F5 G- l# a, l2 {
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
5 [2 u8 M7 W- O' b8 U可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,$ l2 [( V- v9 R5 Z
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...; L( Y& L, u7 x# `( z* |- N
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't! ]; u6 F) k  e. l7 b( \  O- {
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!4 \' M$ u, p* o- c9 X
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話
) d; B, k+ a0 u& Y, n# D3 U- d若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,* h; r: y& l+ ~( x3 ]0 i
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
1 o3 l( w9 C3 f% A你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
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发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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( y$ P0 ?- U, ^7 s  |/ W' X: b上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
4 y4 ^- b1 Z* q, A! F4 p  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
; u6 F6 l( u; ^" R& y+ X有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
9 v, r; I5 z7 [, A% d这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
大型搬家
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了. _" U9 \) U+ G# s) e
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。9 m" m& q- q% c! B2 P7 b

' v" w. @- s' K5 y社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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