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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. ) T5 T/ M: W2 p

5 P7 a9 G0 T# \5 _, kThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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# X- e+ s7 ]# T4 a, X' b"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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6 ?+ J- m' ?2 T) cNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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; `; \5 S/ m' l8 ]2 tTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.0 W* d. P4 L8 c2 A( Y
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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0 `3 E" i) ~9 C" bTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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( O$ j+ }/ K6 h9 JMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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( S$ }" E+ {5 ohttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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: V8 L+ I5 d$ V; d5 v. k6 @TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,* J3 F" Y6 N( L
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。2 Z) c! r/ |3 [( Y
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。8 ~/ C( J5 ], S$ N5 v) g9 `2 X7 R5 S* \, |

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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
6 f8 M: e* D2 J" Z跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

6 \7 e' r; \+ R( [9 |  |9 p$ B6 @: v很多人都回学校深造去了$ v0 y: p* f3 `% ]1 p
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta3 ?: q) f. b3 Y! p
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to7 ?3 ^5 R, k0 B+ L
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household5 B& [5 ^: A' b' ?9 O2 q
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided4 U& ?  r7 [% v* B- K$ m1 N
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,+ B. C3 S# Q& \% N
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
; ?* [; O- R$ E: O" n# _! R# _% Umay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
! E; v- E! Y) |. @8 W1 T1 npace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed8 H9 C: ?$ _. [9 Z! V* H, c
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
( o7 {8 G( _% @$ c+ lto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
; ]! d- H. c6 x5 F- bprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this( T" X) R1 {. H0 A  Z  [
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
3 J0 `0 @% B- a! ]homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around1 a$ F9 t  G1 D- a
30,000 new households will form in the province during
2 J$ K) C8 _4 c/ k2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.6 ?" p" I6 q& Z5 C1 y/ v- H7 f2 `
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
9 P3 Q2 V9 j5 S" x( M" u) ohomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
( ?" R" i/ M! E9 lduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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. x& b3 a$ q+ x; ^/ C9 q, p7 ~; Chouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals7 H  k" Y; U: b& i9 j* Z1 T; U
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
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two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
. l! R; I/ ^4 d. [" m) wunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7473 ^; W# h& c. ^8 m2 N& n3 O) B* z5 t' j
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest# |) v0 M/ @! [6 D6 o* M
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the; P' I  T0 O9 {3 V& \. g
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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/ |; W' o! v9 q3 J! MThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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  t0 L0 F8 b6 p# h9 k7 s9 ]4 WAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
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relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale( Q1 z# u( x3 d3 {. ~2 a4 `
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
$ J! B( X  A1 T& u: X( ?though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners0 W( a7 R- A8 e9 }2 y
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable., @7 c7 M* @( Q' u  h+ }  j
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average( U9 p  F( ~8 f: o  x  U  Y
resale price in February is evidence that past prices+ `* |* B* [, @) a
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove1 |- c% N( O/ h1 i2 C) z
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
3 D; n; n5 p' H6 p8 O% o9 V$ d2 kAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. : d4 b  B8 N! ~! C" Y6 F3 Y9 F9 R# Z
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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