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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics./ v, P9 w% ?1 _% |- Q3 m

" p3 |- R9 z$ i% B! JTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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8 e' G; O& ^7 Y3 RThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 1 r  h; e! \. X

( X8 W- m/ p( S8 ]0 H. @- ^"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 8 U* u$ s: g& C  a* |& G: i7 {/ W
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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+ r0 ?+ r* ^9 R# b% `3 x; w# I"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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7 g' [0 u) r% m0 I! A: {4 ?! @3 MTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.2 l4 \1 n7 y+ `2 a. b2 |1 K
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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4 {& P- u, N  F/ d% qTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,  e2 W) u  G8 ^7 m1 t4 H

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。7 z$ Z7 \$ n) b/ S! p4 D2 g
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。0 ]4 {( }, n7 z0 o7 Y' t0 P
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 , |' {" R6 w. [% s: b
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了$ U* E, x8 \% Q9 U& _
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta8 @. A" v) I( ^: ~
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to) [4 q9 n$ G4 r0 B- ^5 I/ v
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household+ P% P0 x7 Y0 V6 J% S- P
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
% X% n  f/ X4 g/ z+ bfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,; J9 d8 c+ _) A2 b5 W2 S! S
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and# g2 n9 j( y, r0 h
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
) F# y3 A& _; D- o4 f0 Wpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed1 s3 c# `) O7 z6 f0 }
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
5 m# r: R/ u7 l, g- l& _to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
! {7 \" h+ k$ ~prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this) k/ F. W& @6 K( r
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,' f+ a7 L0 s) R# Q1 h# |3 H$ Z1 Y
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around+ ^. m" W% S2 L2 Q
30,000 new households will form in the province during( r" j- J7 g, e) I, @1 W, J
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
7 @6 X" m) d( _- C7 {7 i, \! }Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
+ C1 N* T, t7 c7 O& y) m. \homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%- {6 t! z& b) `' _: T, C
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta2 I% K) R! e! O' N! s  u9 ~
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
1 d" H/ T. `  V/ R* @9 E& x/ s5 {households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
- S$ g* A  i- H& V+ i4 e' M, n1 Iduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging+ d& O. y2 D) V! q- R7 s) Q0 P
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
) [$ }' _% M3 n( Y7 Z5 m" fclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
) g& `: P" \; X% N+ D/ Z- j1 qexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of' n% x; t  }  o. u
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a+ q; a& Q; b9 l7 [7 D4 _
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive7 @4 h, ?1 j- K3 m6 T& U2 s* j
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in+ e! i6 Z/ h% f& m1 P2 n
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
. q6 D  x- V. ]unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747' f, ?; s/ j1 p  k  G' M
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
7 i& o; |3 t1 K& O6 k7 p! b2 Jrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
" m, V9 Y# W4 u: t2 Tresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s( ^7 D5 F# d' o: u4 m& Q: X1 R0 K& q
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
5 y# e) h$ w+ @" P5 yof new singles, and, with demand having cooled
/ j% a' H7 P; R3 R. erapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
8 L. z5 Q3 T6 W( c2 o0 ]4 Y4 K) @The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
7 ]3 y7 ]( ~) U9 `6 ?boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
: E9 B. U, v+ JAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
# J6 g' ^2 k9 Zhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even) b& Y4 X. V: ~) r; ^. z6 F& u7 G
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average) Q; J- b$ q, R5 E( X
resale price in February is evidence that past prices0 S/ S, \5 M* R, p9 ]0 D5 ~/ |. r
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
6 E4 B+ |- S6 b* C* P4 xhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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1 \. k5 p( Z# ]/ QAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%' @/ \  x) j" k& k1 F
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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- U7 Y, Y" n) Y8 t7 j0 J: W0 o[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. " L- k, U  C: w6 C3 R$ ~0 k
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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