I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache6 N8 V$ Z P( i; C' f" f' B# ?
$ O6 T3 p. b9 _* xCalm down everyone please. % m( w+ a5 k/ H6 [ 7 g; u7 q' C+ g+ M+ P" K不存在 can mean two different things:& A% Q' \- g/ o
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1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. U: R. P0 Y [: C" s8 D5 p& S
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 $ h) z! e+ _) G# d. b1 W; | 7 K, S" ^& r5 ?, KI assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist0 O, o+ z6 Z5 a& `( S
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表4 O$ A( q! [; y+ d0 O# [/ u
I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache ' g0 z; a- S3 ^ m. M! ^1 y# m, c. B: F7 Q. q( A: R
Calm down everyone please.+ n ?' c- C( @) X4 _, x
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不存在 can mean two different things: 2 z3 P5 ]' e( p * ~7 a9 p7 o; e$ e% ?3 t1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. 3 O" u6 j! }, d2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 , [) F# v1 i2 Q0 m7 U @8 l5 Z( {0 e# a* L4 a6 @, p
I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
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小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
9 T- `! ~, `: K8 J2 v" o) kDid your GOD ask you to curse people this way? " k' L2 g( M1 J9 S; U5 bIf you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
' i% C, e/ a. ^5 ~1 D! ^" i/ o 1 W, e2 t. C1 C: ~2 F2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!! 1 W. \, J- \ s$ V [/ S1 d, }& U5 ?, h. ]: D" ~" a$ q
At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.
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那按她的道理,, 首先这点就错了.. 人出现之前没有,, 在上帝造人时也没有,, 造完就有了;; 过去没飞机,, 现在有了,, 你不觉得这个assumption是强词夺理吗.. 假设如果你现在5岁,, 你过去没长毛,, 现在还是没毛,, 你说你将来 肯定不长毛/?/?
原帖由 也无风雨也无晴 于 2006-6-8 10:30 发表 K8 @% R. ]) {$ s
宗教信仰是一种自由,信也好,不信也罢,别恶意攻击别人, ...
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& i2 q) Z$ o: S8 S% q- \6 kArguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years) ; M7 y! n+ N' u0 N0 N; I! H( Z 7 A% J& r. x V2 s7 m6 g5 O' H9 EMaybe we should stop argument. 1 m4 V9 w) F, o6 y9 X! _" I1 T/ Q) h- u9 p( s
My commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion3 v0 y* v+ C2 p! L4 i$ d) p