I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache/ i8 e" h( a6 c* c
) J3 x4 v* L. w* x( W
Calm down everyone please.7 i* q9 ?0 v0 W1 M/ \& H3 [% R
* ]% j+ u% [/ n- p3 o
不存在 can mean two different things: : {+ h2 S3 o7 Z: \7 U# j 5 v) U* M% }' F5 v, Z2 o1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. 2 X$ g2 Z: D2 T9 e9 \5 D9 r- Z2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 , G, Q; E8 a( S2 L; q, p5 V 6 D8 U; T/ Q+ G, cI assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ( t8 ]; _ [+ N" @0 W! e 7 ]. }) r" ]& h* X' T! L4 v[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:29 编辑 ]
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表: c8 h! e+ J, k8 \2 f2 G) {
I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache ; O9 ]% U; E$ U0 {) \2 Y( G8 T7 c P' \1 n, @( z/ y XCalm down everyone please.8 T0 U2 |8 A* \
/ n* R% D# Q7 R" `3 F1 L. l4 \
不存在 can mean two different things: % S$ N8 R4 m. h! g# ] 9 F) Z/ f3 r+ [* u7 c6 J5 @/ i1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. / ^2 `; K, Z. `6 f5 m2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头, J, a, E0 q3 @" j; d3 n
' p. `' z8 @$ p4 U7 B
I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
1 p0 f, x) A* I* X+ u3 n) B- k, H
8 J5 R2 d4 O' h5 ]; P* A小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
. f7 \# I$ T8 I+ {' k% k8 {& g6 A" y* a/ B2 i Did your GOD ask you to curse people this way?6 }! Z& ?: H M8 w* o5 C
If you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 10:55 发表# O' b m& w) a+ w) H# U, t
/ x5 t* e, S& Z; C }" z$ r% A: t# g C4 `9 [
2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!!( ]; ^ y( J: N$ [$ P
- {: w5 I. j ^' H% p
At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.
: r' S$ p0 a( Y5 J4 f! z! V9 J& r& y( o m L5 x U b& K
那按她的道理,, 首先这点就错了.. 人出现之前没有,, 在上帝造人时也没有,, 造完就有了;; 过去没飞机,, 现在有了,, 你不觉得这个assumption是强词夺理吗.. 假设如果你现在5岁,, 你过去没长毛,, 现在还是没毛,, 你说你将来 肯定不长毛/?/?
$ A4 W! p/ |' v& c5 H* S! d) E
Arguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years)( j ^8 m6 y" h/ A" L/ `( G9 N
0 l& g A' b: E0 A( N
Maybe we should stop argument. ; r% b& Q. h$ T" S9 X
4 A: E- X; ?7 f1 [- Q& g, yMy commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion 1 \* T& j' Y# D. _6 p4 F; b, p2 D. _% M
[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 11:28 编辑 ]