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合同工和正式工,如果最后收入相等,工资比例应该是多少?

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鲜花(345) 鸡蛋(0)
 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-14 22:19 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
summer_tina 发表于 2013-3-14 17:10
% H7 e* Q( K* w- C2 [嗯,很多牛人。的确是。
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当然,也有混的啦

5 o) Z# J* P1 V6 O/ R1 Q我看到的合同工还都有些本事,大小之分,混子还没看到过。
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-14 22:20 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-14 21:31 ' q$ `) Q) N; \: p
my landlord's wife, she is a contractor( PDMS designer) in an engineering company, pay is very good, ...
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那么你是没有试用期吗?
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 16:51 | 显示全部楼层
Now I have enjoied the benefits, I have 2 cards, 1 great -west life benefit card, other is travel insurance
. z; m- _4 |8 |4 ~- kcard, if I visit china, US, cover accident. My medicine is 100% cover, I got them. the glasses $250, sate shoe, $150, message $500/year, foot pads, $400, clean teeth and filled, 100% cover, since tomorrow,
8 f' Y4 g& s5 d" ~* y- ?' MI will enjoy my benefits, I select the Sunday overtime. Normally, 3 months, but I worked 1 week, they gave) I+ f5 C+ s$ f" a/ K. q6 j
me these card, filled RRSP form, I never ask them, interview, I only ask wage, other I didn't ask.About low EQ
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 16:58 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-14 08:32
7 F; _. o! \5 I9 V' G还有心态,运气。而往往心态会影响运气。
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: E* M* s# T; M你这里说的能力,不光是技能方面的能力,更重要的是EQ的能力 ...

$ L; k2 L8 \" LIn canada, there are many opportunities to test EQ.
鲜花(123) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2013-3-15 17:33 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-15 17:51
, M2 j1 g; L' S1 K0 F, v9 }Now I have enjoied the benefits, I have 2 cards, 1 great -west life benefit card, other is travel in ...

( B2 d* C' f* s& M- z% L: T1 _% m其实,这就是employee的缺点,强制消费.
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鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 17:43 | 显示全部楼层
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 18:33 5 K7 K6 n2 h. d4 Z2 U: G
其实,这就是employee的缺点,强制消费.

6 j6 N* P% G* m# w) E- Zno 强制消费, 100% cover, I don't need pay anything, insurance company pay,- J6 J/ s; f) Q
I like vwry much, it is free, only RRSP reduce from my pay, employer pay 6%.( p" M2 O: U; r, h1 U
Tomorrow, I will do message, nothing pay, I show my benefit card, they take your NO,
  W, `& y5 s/ b/ ^. Eask insurance company pay, no me!
2 ], Y) q, w. y1 g- TWhy not? I go to Wal mart, $250 plus exam fees, all the insurance company pay!
鲜花(1337) 鸡蛋(54)
发表于 2013-3-15 18:13 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
自己做,啥都没有的路过!
鲜花(123) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2013-3-15 18:19 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-15 18:43
  [! m" z& H. _( U3 _no 强制消费, 100% cover, I don't need pay anything, insurance company pay,+ Q# n& M4 F- ^! a! X" T
I like vwry much, it i ...
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你还是没有理解我的话.# _, |) w' R& d6 R* q5 I1 J
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Contrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了./ e+ b, k" y. u* z$ R+ E+ X
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而employee把该到手的钱变成这些福利了,这不是强迫消费是什么?
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象这些,给了我,我都不会去消费的,那换成钱,到自己口袋里,想怎么花就怎么花.
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 18:48 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 19:19
8 Q- n. i; M/ \" A0 R你还是没有理解我的话.
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* c% r; }9 T+ _Contrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了.

: E/ w7 a5 B4 {# E5 aclasses, every 2 years I must change, RRSP I buy it every year,  I every day eat medicine, clean teeth
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accident, my daughter will get compensation. no more charge me, I like. I enjoy.
# m5 f# s! q; r: A- \5 h( |" jIn the future, i would like to try a contractor position. Now, they need me, I keep this position.
$ ]4 s9 u) U; J/ chow long, I don't know.
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 19:14 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 19:19 ; U  g# t' I) E, k/ T- x
你还是没有理解我的话.
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Contrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了.
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四十不惑? maybe you are too young, I must eat 2 medicines every day. if no more benefits, I must pay by myself. I had heavy sick, on time eating medicine, keep to work, health is the more and more better.
鲜花(1337) 鸡蛋(54)
发表于 2013-3-15 19:32 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-15 20:14 ( k. Q, g! R( s9 w3 s
四十不惑? maybe you are too young, I must eat 2 medicines every day. if no more benefits, I must p ...

% v6 l" F7 ^3 T6 \+ U/ ~5 y: j姐姐的这种情况,不适合做CONTRACTOR,真的!
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 21:15 | 显示全部楼层
my positions always are perm! my best position are in Wichita,KS, US, manufacturing engineer, in aerospace
! s0 J+ t( \( U4 k: carea, because of I have not US greencard ,US citizen, I cann't work long term! In Houston, design engineer; r- V, a, j2 z" z/ z
a single office, for my daughter, I quited this good job, come back AB, driving a car about 4 days. Then,6 p* U/ [3 K8 ~' D
come in Ontario, picked up my daughter to Edmonton from Ontario.
1 _# n) \/ r: R9 y* z2 N10 years ago, I was a labor in KUS canada, 12 hours shift, 6:00am to 6pm, or 6pm to 6am, after  6 months I moved to winsor, KUS closed down! In Windsor I started professional position.: v9 W4 ]: \3 ?  o% |
Now, I am the better than 10 years ago. passed many difficults, I still are health, happy, modern and young( look young)7 \! \, _4 H4 E6 R1 U- D
Thanks! lovely small girl!
鲜花(123) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2013-3-15 23:31 | 显示全部楼层
同言同羽 置业良晨
marie 发表于 2013-3-15 20:14 + v5 L8 X2 w4 e( C* Y
四十不惑? maybe you are too young, I must eat 2 medicines every day. if no more benefits, I must p ...
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我不年轻了.不过我每年花在看病吃药上,不到100加币.其实也很多年没看病了,连体检都不去.
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8 [. N9 o# H! N7 R' Y* O洗牙是回国再洗,我受不了这边的,洗一次牙,都要让你走两趟.5 K1 X8 l( L; y. R* y- E
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象你的身体情况,真不应该老换工作,每换一次工作,就得迎接新的挑战和压力.应该找一份比较轻松的工作.
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-16 13:48 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
current benefits come from of 换工作, if there are no 挑战和压力, the company never hire me.0 D! G% M+ |9 `3 t
I cann't show my experiences. Next step, they will train me to learn new software( 1 week), I will lose8 H6 ~% g, s% |9 d- `" q
the good chance. Don't worried about 老年痴呆症. Life is in moving6 z( h8 u. H, a" c( }7 T; E0 }
Tomorrow, I still work( overtime) 10 hours(7am-5pm), I will edit some programs and setting.
鲜花(844) 鸡蛋(29)
发表于 2013-3-16 14:39 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 量子风水 于 2013-3-16 14:57 编辑
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合同工与非合同工,是看自己的成熟程度。如果成熟程度高,又不等钱用,合同工是优于长工的。我公司的创办人之一,已经到退休年龄,他就是做contractor。他可能是三五个月都在世界各地旅游了,偶尔才回公司一次。他是远程办公,用网络通过安全卡来做测试。
5 v1 I% k5 {8 |( S- F8 P& o& ]/ g" h我在卡城的同事,也是喜欢做contractor,他是‘从来没有在家闲上二个月的’,工资都不低于10万一年。% j/ [$ j9 j5 I8 Q, j+ I, q
这与他的职业性质有关,他是做C#之类高级程序研发,这种职业面宽。而我就学不了他,我的专业面窄,是不宜做contractor,只能先后senior engineer/lead努力,以后再图其他。
鲜花(844) 鸡蛋(29)
发表于 2013-3-16 14:50 | 显示全部楼层
同时与marie一样,在专业领域有相似成功,也曾经长期单身的女性,但即有不同的处世方式,并且应用得成功,而且福泽下一代,这种类型的女性,还是值得佩服与学习。( O7 ]) S. @; l' [
印象深的一次,是她家邻居有个冷气机,夏天时噪音很大。她不是去投诉人家,而是用想用一种和平的途径来解决纷争--显然,邻居并非有意,这是可以用和平方式解决的前提。这样做当然成功,邻居将冷气机的防护罩去掉,噪音就很小,而夏天热天也没有几天,所以不伤和气。
) F. i3 \6 v9 |  }世界不是你一个人的,即使是毛公这样的政治家,有杀子之仇恨的美国,都要建交,所以适当使用妥协,也是一种很好的途径。6 q+ g# A; x* I" S7 M
当生活中没有那么多纷争时,人生病的机会就少。
理袁律师事务所
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-16 14:56 | 显示全部楼层
同言同羽 置业良晨
本帖最后由 JoyceAccSG 于 2013-3-16 22:02 编辑
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八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 19:19 ' H7 z& j' e" H6 ~% n- v% L
你还是没有理解我的话.
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Contrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了.

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These are from my account details( my benefits), please compare your contractor details,0 e; `- E7 R! T5 d8 ]
because of I never become a contractor, let me know about contractor knowledge please
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Dental Benefits Summary:
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6 g9 c/ E+ i. T$ o' [; HRoutine                : U8 b% C8 R; K" I6 }
        Basic                 100%
2 P2 ~" c( x, E( m        Endodontics                 100%
1 b$ V) b& {# R# _  h( W        Periodontics                 100%
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7 J- r# D/ e; O9 [/ p+ f        Global Medical Assistance         Covered
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发表于 2013-3-16 15:20 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-16 15:56
0 j( P" ]) M0 kThese are from my account details( my benefits), please compare your contractor details,
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谢谢你啊.
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还真没见过给这么多Benefits的公司呢,你这个位置肯定很重要,你在公司也肯定很重要.
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7 N/ V9 b" \- G) t1 l! p. B好好享受这些福利啊.如果觉得合适和足够的话,就别再换了,公司给这么好这么多的福利,也是为了能留住人才啊.; ]6 A4 b( z+ w# l1 h+ r
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至于Contractor的细节,我也不想多说,其实也没什么好说,你列出来得所有福利,一项都没有,就简简单单的,每小时是多少钱就多少钱.
鲜花(844) 鸡蛋(29)
发表于 2013-3-16 17:10 | 显示全部楼层
中国人口是13亿,而加拿大是3千万,这种差异,使得在加拿大,有几十人的公司,就是中型公司了;有几个工程师的团队,就可以服务一个中型公司。这是在优势上,不能用中国的标准来衡量加拿大的标准。
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2 j; `7 e' x! R, z) j) m所以,在这里,如果一家中有两个或以上的同一类别的developers, 就有可以形成一定的气候,可以外接一些简单的程序开发项目;如果再联系另一家,就可以做更大一些的项目。而contractor是向这个方向努力的最简便起步途径,这种contractor就是一种'自雇‘性质的管理。
5 n; T/ Y7 c3 K- _( s( A& e# M成功是经验、管理与技能的三重积累。人家有这种条件,不但有两个或以上的程序员,而且朋友圈中也有许多程序员,从而可能产生能量聚合,这就当然向这个方向努力。
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-16 17:53 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-16 16:20 & k6 m% w( z4 g& z& G, X2 L  G
谢谢你啊.- ?3 r( q) u% b
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还真没见过给这么多Benefits的公司呢,你这个位置肯定很重要,你在公司也肯定很重要.
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I will, thanks!3 v7 Q5 R% w1 k: k! ]
I was a small engineer in china, same as me in china, too many ,too many! I never did team leader, never
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