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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞/ Q+ e( W2 `8 p2 ]" H

3 G! k( f! n$ e+ Z4 R5 G) bBilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
: u7 |+ s( A3 q# @* A2 A5 qClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"0 b& L2 ?) B! R1 p' \  v- t
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
% o3 ?5 L1 c. X葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:& L3 o  b; ^/ Q- M1 y; d# j
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?1 j6 g; h) F8 h
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:' N* X  S+ j8 |, C4 J  _- N- h

) f- U1 |' c" K% V" b7 XAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.7 O) H/ q  ?" l. X" z
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
( Y4 U, B) H/ Y5 {6 l, W# d* abut for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
/ t3 X- ]( B9 \' k# j; a0 M. Sto get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
% x: v1 q& o4 l5 iAnd being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.& B8 s) j; S1 `. K1 A( r
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection+ I' p% ]* B% I5 Y0 a( j
if we demand He leave us alone?"
2 P$ H% @- f; G& P! v『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
8 L. I4 v+ i: r只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
  d2 Y8 n( W3 v/ ^  G不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。- {/ r6 f1 \4 k" h  e
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。, J5 Q' I9 {, s+ H- z' x
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,
; k1 ~' X, `$ Q4 Y6 O又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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1 @/ l; y* R; CIn light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.; C% w3 K' c) Z) W4 E6 v
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,, V( U8 {6 T, J- \; t
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our
$ e% K+ f$ J2 G2 \schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
# _2 R; U2 S4 X. I$ Cschool...+ K% K0 ?( o4 s9 [; n
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
% X& n; H/ P6 ^% ?; ?* u( wand love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
6 q- p. v% z) W看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
: r" [8 e+ h" g我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
3 [0 f# g0 U7 T(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,% b1 J/ R% y0 r0 E
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
+ N, w$ j8 A2 [5 z* |3 `0 s要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。1 w8 O0 d( W# o# {# Y

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( F7 ^1 P* [& x& e( L% X7 AThen Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children7 B6 A3 n' Q1 w) q
when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped% d/ @) k8 S% p3 g5 s
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
) V! v* W) u! q# ~/ \6 k/ Rsuicide)' _% W! x8 s4 O& f( `$ j% P9 C" y% D
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
* X( z9 M9 w- Y0 F' ^+ H$ b然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
+ T3 q: w: ?  k1 f( i我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,* P* t: q2 }" O- S0 O
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊7 q+ \; M/ O: \  z3 ^
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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  @/ a9 o" }1 s, N, |Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our
! N+ w2 Z* a; d, l2 G. ochildren when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member
( n, k5 s+ G3 g; J5 A  k) yin this school better touch a student when they misbehave
) g- d8 b' q& s$ L+ K) _0 }8 Fbecause we don 't want any bad publicity,
& E  o2 O+ s( o4 V( A: b! y, \and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
! q) x: E" @( _1 b% Y( _between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
4 M, ]$ S( U9 a' e; U  w9 {etc.). And we said OK.
/ p8 v; U( o3 r; ~6 O- I9 r然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,$ w! v  `( W: C" {+ i3 ^; ~
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,) U! o# V9 K6 q
教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
  s2 C5 e( M: s更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),3 q5 X" z' c4 J# A* W& d1 V" V1 I2 B
而大家同意了。
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+ B7 y: C. G1 A" r6 x% O5 ~7 m* h* gThen someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,
: x9 |1 O# i+ u$ qand they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.4 P0 W. ]) H. _* _3 z
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys/ O) p( b& R! X  ]. o& N) R
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms# I) a; g4 [) m7 O; c7 G
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,
- O, a+ @" K0 A5 yand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
/ x8 z0 t' Z; Y3 @9 A2 a3 C: t& fsaid OK.& W1 |" k4 D+ W$ _' l4 v& w
然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
# X) ?) Y- y- N+ x  Y* ]6 B甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
  q" D* {; e. h9 P3 d4 p然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,% V* P& A" ^: A- c$ J
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
* g' q. }$ S6 i6 q6 R' s好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
* v, `5 _6 h# ^他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。; \! @4 x9 e9 I/ F# x- l

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$ H" ~3 E7 p; D5 N. a/ ?6 ~4 z" ~Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter
3 W. y' E- X6 C7 ^+ Awhat we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,9 p* z+ j8 \6 Q
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
$ ^! I; Z- o  Pdoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.2 W! V5 u! u  b: s9 y, f- J
然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
4 r* \& Q8 H7 T1 }/ _( h4 J5 i, ?只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
: J+ }; L" l7 q/ N1 P& R# ~任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
" z8 [8 k4 a% ^! W9 s. q只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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& w0 }8 p/ |1 E- F! UThen someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women- [; p. i4 K7 C4 d, o* p4 u, v5 G, a
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
0 A& w9 H: J6 E. C: Dof the female body. And we said OK.
: R, d. }1 e$ k; Z$ [然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,' p. u, p5 f$ j
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。+ V. V7 m# [6 C' q- ~% s8 {5 S3 A. U

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5 t) A- l* v+ v% M8 S0 o8 O" A4 \And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
/ k- y# g, Q; m9 ^( Q9 S5 J1 C0 y1 Zpublished pictures of nude children and then further again
( p  f, W& |* P( {& t' h( {1 cby making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
7 P7 v' |. J2 Nthey're entitled to free speech.
/ n- S' T7 M' v; X然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,+ k* K9 q+ {: ?
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,( h; U9 _9 `. m  I
他們這樣做是言論自由。3 S" n" W% _9 [+ T2 m& v8 S4 B) R

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+ y, I1 d. Q8 i, C4 N& pThen the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
: {) {) Z8 _" y: x' Uthat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
/ K4 X1 J( j! Y  C4 pthat encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.) J0 B) K' q4 M+ w/ U
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,: r& @) c* f6 h; S  G2 M
nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.- H  f! L  l7 j; _# X" q
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、  U3 l& `' Q6 h- k6 U
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、' N+ O# I4 i  J
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
2 b1 u/ ~" H, _  _$ G. p" f那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。7 f3 L& Z* p* ]

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; w: h, i8 |  ~9 d- B' I! w3 _Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
8 |- h. z! F  y* ~( y2 o( W2 ~why they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them* q. s' R  O6 R% Q  u/ V* p
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,1 R# Y% L8 ~1 B# [! C
if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
/ w' z; ]  g1 D7 \I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
$ A6 Q, B  x  N) g4 k6 `如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?: J6 v" f+ l3 \+ H
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
5 Q1 Z7 O( |- v3 B為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?/ R# t. A! x8 Q$ I/ m! F. q
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。9 d9 s7 U8 S: L# N1 Y' x, q
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。( w7 T" m" f# O( F

  `' f# l0 ~$ H. M8 U- HFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder9 e' e. x7 ]1 ~9 W: R$ {
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
+ I5 R5 H: L. ?say, but question what the Bible says.9 A$ a7 \+ a5 s% ~% W
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。( G1 T; |. R' O* E( }4 w/ u
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
- `8 t" ^( `3 Q! Q1 ]6 ~' _5 Zwildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
- Q  b& k$ |# ^& hpeople think twice about sharing.
* B+ l0 z3 q# Z3 j. z  K( }/ V實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
6 O/ v' E" l; G* n! y" F( R7 ]# J但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,' \, v% ]7 f# t  V4 a
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
' D; J+ |% |' \! ^through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed% p$ M, W, t4 I) R1 C# A
in the school and workplace., {1 o" `8 s4 l' M
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章6 n8 [. E3 _3 Q% C  L
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;# Y1 h1 i/ {8 x
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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Are you laughing?
9 T' D1 o3 S/ y* A' Q; c- k2 A你笑了嗎?
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Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
, j$ f- q; m# y3 Uto many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,
+ ?5 e/ `: L( D/ for what they WILL think of you for sending it.. U2 \+ ~* t: W! G9 ]
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
/ P/ P6 F1 y3 U! W' Ythan what God thinks of us./ Z% |& y( m; ]0 ]
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
6 i) f$ c% n# s) B7 {, O因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,: d9 g& E7 e  ^% j6 `# F2 F; P
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。: L& D0 n9 n! I
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,) l- o2 m1 ], D( d0 Y2 n9 t
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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/ N5 y  O. w( Y- O, w) B0 d. K5 TPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
1 r$ i8 C0 w4 O' S5 h+ q9 ]no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't& m  [0 T, t, E) K! g4 j, x! I
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!9 V' t+ v5 s; k
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話7 {3 ?9 k1 B% \* d. C9 Z
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,. s8 a7 D, J  A+ B5 c  O
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
3 C& d' \0 X6 [) ]  T你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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/ N7 D& _- u% B2 P上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。) w) }7 s# E% k. S9 q
  May God bless you!
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发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶" m1 A% }3 |/ c' Y- g# C  N
有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。. \2 Q. \' m0 w+ D- l
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
大型搬家
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了" |  j6 m! n1 `6 |6 l; y2 O! e# R
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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2 o: n4 B# G) Z0 x社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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