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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞! Z" Z. F5 u% ?. z% A9 W% R
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
+ Z6 B6 g' [2 ^7 d. `+ k" wClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
! J4 N" Y+ ?7 B(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).$ ~) f% H6 X0 I
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:# ~: G8 v- s# ?' l+ c
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?! Z) H" E+ e0 M- |
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
5 }* C5 y, [! F8 v, U7 ]She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
* x& T- O3 `" w1 ~$ \  wbut for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
0 T- C" t4 H! O) M! D; F& j1 [to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
# }( g5 w, `; v" j, w) |1 h* K" F3 BAnd being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
* U9 K4 }  O6 N6 q+ rHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
1 Q! a' Z- O+ f8 N+ p- Tif we demand He leave us alone?"+ C6 s+ q" z8 l: k
『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;) b+ N$ D) m8 ^  I/ N
只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,9 v( @: A2 J+ N9 K1 y
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
! w! k7 k0 p4 [& v上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。
, `7 \1 f$ ], e2 H7 z1 G3 n我們既然強令祂遠離我們,+ K; z" X! {8 D$ P! L/ V
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』- ?: t/ x" f4 b" m% t
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.- }' F% U# ^3 d( @3 O. U0 r+ g1 |
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
" K5 E1 D+ }' k" d7 [6 `her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our! ]' S5 |" M! m$ D8 E
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in+ K: z2 y. }& S' v
school...4 k% l/ ?+ D  q% _
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
5 S# Z# n4 ~' `+ s- j& D4 F7 }and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
+ d3 @' d/ k2 U5 Y) ]$ Y看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,$ L& }4 z) c: ^0 y& q! E
我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士5 _" b, ?' v- V. u. Q, G) s
(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
/ U: p9 C( R; T! U) G最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
$ P' C% z( `% H3 l要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
; `" X% ?  z& I5 ?9 u! V( \( K$ M' ~when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
7 T( ^" I% O. Q" S/ ?1 uand we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
6 G  X7 ]1 z* y1 Tsuicide)
& l/ C7 U# j. n7 rWe said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.: x9 y" L# R4 h1 j# ^9 z1 N( h
然後Benjamin Spock博士說,! J6 S% ?+ o' V8 p1 h
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,
  A0 A4 b) R2 q. s  w) Z7 V5 D以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊
' j+ G" ^. e( f/ P( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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8 _! Y* X1 a+ N4 z! UThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our
: \/ F, W% B3 }( }. qchildren when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member
0 c. T) Z0 F8 w: S* F' X) Min this school better touch a student when they misbehave
( k2 e9 k7 }  {. K9 H0 O: k& wbecause we don 't want any bad publicity,8 M  `4 F1 R2 \4 y3 K
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference/ ]1 P% n& P. l+ x/ j
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
# J* f2 X. o8 h8 H+ ?5 Netc.). And we said OK.6 _$ G% c& h1 d/ v5 f1 A( F
然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,+ [5 P, M: m7 e+ i  b$ i
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
, q* J0 j2 O( s教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,( l$ V5 F/ g0 `# X/ Q
更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),
3 [7 i3 t8 B3 L而大家同意了。
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,& r% {  `9 u% Y5 C! v3 Z
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
7 m6 v" v6 b+ }! ?5 b  w0 vThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys  m. @2 i  V4 h( z
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
/ l7 S2 d/ [. W' hthey want so they can have all the fun they desire,# ?0 h4 ?$ c( u/ g
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
: d# r: x; r( I7 Lsaid OK./ G4 V: y4 A3 x4 j
然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
7 X' K2 j6 L3 z1 b% y! j1 ]甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。6 y: G' c, O+ E* R
然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,. }0 O. b: f- y. ^( U1 o7 A( T# D) ^
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
8 U7 I: b# G- k好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道: E& Y" @+ G9 Y8 u
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。# i4 }; |) P: J' x" ^/ t
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Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter) }: \* ^0 I8 ~0 Z( C0 X: h& W
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,5 f2 {/ S! b4 H( d5 W
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
3 |5 u7 S- S- A' Z7 I3 B4 m3 Edoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
* P5 W5 T" {( m然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
  Y- y, S7 Q) J$ L5 C4 @( m只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
% a/ T, y& z# P7 e; c, ?任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
" {* N; T% m) e. U0 o+ |只要我有工作而且經濟看好。' m4 N. }4 t$ S( D9 d
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women2 T2 T! p6 ^; a/ Q+ U2 ]+ `
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
% K' c$ I  a' v- f& S, M3 fof the female body. And we said OK.1 o# @  w9 J+ X2 g# @. z: v/ `: v  A
然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,3 Q- N# ~9 `2 c
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。* Z; T+ d/ r, E% A8 }2 N! _" K, o3 A

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( W' B% L  Z. v# wAnd then someone else took that appreciation a step further and* ~! v  u$ |0 S' i, }1 i
published pictures of nude children and then further again. E/ o0 w3 ~8 [9 j; W
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
7 z4 Z" N) r" bthey're entitled to free speech.1 E( f0 ]: w# V5 s
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,
# z0 ?4 m+ ]/ L# Y5 b8 o/ ^甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,) G$ F8 O7 C* R6 g: t' I5 l
他們這樣做是言論自由。
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
( l. }4 f9 {! w. S) G9 T; `8 U! Mthat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music. F8 s* D; r4 r$ A; \5 n
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
$ R4 Q- x3 L- n; `  z) l$ }/ V  S. uAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,- U9 P4 o  @  `/ W! C% W
nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
6 T( P* i7 v0 F: n- q7 u5 U8 A8 Z然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、0 K# d# g  x# u" }: H
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、2 v# @+ K# o2 L0 |( o
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:3 L* y8 [7 ?/ n
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。+ f2 {2 u# h& Z, S# Y, N$ o- R$ j
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
! R# O9 {0 A7 Pwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them5 `$ c7 X( m, q! f" {  ?5 U
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,! m7 Q0 B0 B5 w7 n! U; r6 N
if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
2 y9 z5 m  W+ q- n. \+ R% ]I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
5 H4 b7 U3 l- g1 J9 X如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?; i7 R7 d7 M; r# P; S
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
! C/ I" W2 ?$ U3 y# T3 j  }2 w為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
" ?# Z2 m: K% Y假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。
2 n( a" B* j, d我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。9 H3 |% Z6 l# b* b6 ^9 N6 G

1 G" `3 _! f3 @4 a  X! {$ SFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
9 e! G  x% \5 m7 C& }' \$ s& Dwhy the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers! O! J; Y6 B. n4 I7 c* i9 l/ h& m
say, but question what the Bible says.- M' Z: h6 {! i; Y% O2 L1 [; D
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。4 R+ h! P! a( D$ n. u
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。5 W2 U# l8 H3 Q9 P; |9 Y/ |1 Z
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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like! m. t2 E' D$ {) U( K5 p
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
* g& \0 ^! K! cpeople think twice about sharing.
# d: ~9 r! @& g7 f2 o實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;8 M( ^7 R" a6 U0 [% {  i& f/ k1 o
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,2 o' I# _8 m0 ]6 [* M& x
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。  p5 P6 V2 p- I0 [2 j7 g6 P

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) x" \( x- D0 t; }Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely2 ]4 w1 B" V) |9 \5 b6 K
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed
% T# j+ ~8 G% ]; @in the school and workplace.
9 o/ ~0 K  Z" p, z" A' A& x/ ^實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章; H# c# U8 A9 b' y1 }; S+ ~
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
; y7 C8 _6 [4 L* t  z2 A7 F而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。' T2 ?# [4 _7 e6 C1 Z

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Are you laughing?
/ \  U4 N& ], o  o* A- M. z" x  l你笑了嗎?' W9 `# c- G; Q& ^

/ N9 w* R- z7 }# f0 p- j5 ZFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it- i9 l& C7 I" a- `& h) f, D' W
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,
% R/ D* h4 V, {, X( U/ u1 o2 @  gor what they WILL think of you for sending it.
7 _* E: \, r$ ]5 [3 ?% S* SFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
+ D+ T9 R/ [4 E3 Vthan what God thinks of us.
4 t% j/ l9 y. d5 K好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
9 S1 I) e4 a7 {# g. W& g: S, `因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
% l% x8 Q2 d8 I' V7 s或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。5 s+ v) Y2 Y$ j" l4 {6 |
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,% w. r9 X; n) j& E
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...( M5 n- g, f% R7 O( c
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't1 B7 I' h& i+ z
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!& Z! I9 A. ?3 i2 X
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話$ D) R6 Q  b- Z3 L& Y
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
; P* ~9 A! C% ~( K% b' O  B: B但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,3 x, w. y8 g- P3 \8 S+ l3 b2 Y
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
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发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.+ t+ D, u  X1 G! X% }, `
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6 Z( ^, M  S2 H8 H上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。7 r; |3 A- j' u1 j" c& U
  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
8 ^: a. f$ ]0 [* n$ D0 m: v有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。& P9 f5 y( q, q2 E
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了! o. l- \0 n! Y$ r
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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