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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞  M  v4 ~7 N: V" m$ e  n4 N* o

( G' m! ~6 w* j9 ]6 P. |- B% QBilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
( O; g5 c" B- t6 s3 _: B$ U% p  wClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"& i: g6 |& m) d( k* I
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
+ X* x. j& v4 c2 v) b$ |! A葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
: U* C. B/ p' }" `  X: Q上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
* E: |0 K8 b3 W/ d+ ^她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:1 U9 H# ^" k* z/ D0 v
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.$ ^, Z5 ^9 t* E9 J: h/ m/ E/ z
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
6 k1 P: A( t& L0 a3 V5 Lbut for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,' d8 k1 U5 H3 V( z5 I3 t
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
( g' j9 W2 q" q' W% WAnd being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
% m, b- E  |2 c7 T! K$ @- J% kHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection. f0 J$ D% ~- ~
if we demand He leave us alone?") ^" J) g% _2 T/ F. ~; F  R; _2 [
『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
% B6 |9 E0 J7 S* P# Z- \) _只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
$ r5 s; W+ L  M( w不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
' v) B# ?3 W0 ?; Z上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。# d) M9 F4 Z  ]5 D9 Q; G
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,! u' I4 c: \9 ?0 \  C. ~9 L# q
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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5 m" i) r( T: ^/ J/ cIn light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
7 V% n5 U; C8 x2 I! xI think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
, |' e  J+ j8 m: A/ D) Z, iher body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our
5 V" [: N7 \  Z4 @6 n& ~/ xschools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in5 K3 |, p4 g$ x( R
school...* W. D7 O9 `8 J$ t. R
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
1 a9 C, r* z- }8 w/ Y# uand love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.9 ?% m8 j' r$ \& B% X# [7 U
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
' @5 R2 d, V! W5 q/ q  F+ z我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士  e) U+ ^6 O# v/ y+ b
(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,3 V- [, a* W$ ]% A7 ^% T
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、, Y' K. M, S" X. c3 e. x# ?) V
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。& N& ?/ K# `; B: c2 K

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. B3 @* v# O7 O6 rThen Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
& K, r# d$ F5 X5 ?( z4 k2 [/ t$ W0 Fwhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
) _! S+ U# z2 _" ?* Q% m6 ?3 eand we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
# P. l3 D. M. y3 h% ?suicide)# Y9 a0 j$ ^  {7 K* O
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
& r9 x4 ~+ V1 w/ J然後Benjamin Spock博士說,- t; X0 u4 d, `! s$ l/ \
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,$ q5 R" u7 u/ W7 {' V7 L) D
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊4 f4 V. P+ M  f* P
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。% b; f, A1 K+ n. P' x3 r- N

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2 C% B8 A5 E9 [+ h% D" VThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our2 k1 r7 E& a' P, Y
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member; {8 m% k5 P/ x/ T  Z* N" a
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave# u! K# a6 Y( O4 @1 ^" ]: j' Z
because we don 't want any bad publicity,2 u- `/ p1 y- O2 [! H* ~2 y
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference- b$ C4 {9 V& b& y4 n, p- h
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
# A2 {3 O  Z4 X' J3 O; Netc.). And we said OK.
# m( R9 Y2 N+ U( w* l然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
, ~, `% V9 u  S2 ?5 _/ B  r5 P老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
& B7 _* g# C" K0 A- L教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,' u1 ?  K7 ]/ l' b/ ]3 q1 I$ f: ~/ z/ R
更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),/ J  v+ |3 E1 }) w
而大家同意了。9 i- c# o# d) p: `( L
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,
5 {" {3 F5 J) x5 t  y2 C; |# Q/ k% zand they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.; R* q! V' K% j, ^' t
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys
2 V0 i  o6 A( R- kand they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
% C1 y: K" z7 ^: \- Wthey want so they can have all the fun they desire,( l5 `, y9 g5 b7 w; f8 ~
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we  z6 ?' g; b& [# n% R! p+ O8 \& L
said OK.9 I) C: m( O& Z! v+ ~0 w& x
然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,7 D# {% N2 u5 F: [; G/ s
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
$ U( F: p  @5 ^' e( v# V然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,, m% h" k# v- X* A
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,7 ]% y9 N* ?! a( L' |
好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道3 k  d+ n+ K5 i' k. C5 _  }: ^5 J2 M
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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5 v; e: d) U( o1 p* vThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter  u, o+ z7 |. J2 t
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,
; I2 K. o8 [4 o* a8 M. x8 Bwe said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
. C7 V$ a9 n7 s/ S0 Zdoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
7 j" C* Q+ c6 z0 E% f7 L然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,9 C- x1 l* ^- b8 z6 ~) w
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
% |8 t- V* ~" B/ ~* L任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
% X2 ~" Y9 V* b* E3 d/ V只要我有工作而且經濟看好。+ L7 g; p# ?9 [. P: t. C1 ~* V7 [; x

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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women2 ^% g: U$ e' A! h: t: f- @
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty' I, D2 e4 G. a  w0 |: L
of the female body. And we said OK.
9 e9 t0 K. B, T( O% i, o9 Y然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,3 a+ ]( w" l1 k
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。9 K5 |" e( H. C& c* Q3 l8 x
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and& p6 B  J( Z$ i8 J6 J- L& B
published pictures of nude children and then further again% Q2 p/ D  p+ U0 z! ^# m$ |! f# {
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,# h3 ?2 ]2 U! x9 \
they're entitled to free speech.; R- P+ N( |3 L3 X# |: p6 ]
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,
8 \, S# {* z2 w/ C: ~甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,$ M4 `% C4 J! U1 r7 I- R3 t8 \4 ~
他們這樣做是言論自由。8 B3 T; S' c( U, k6 a- n5 L6 e
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' S3 P( {. n+ [5 q  G: Q% p9 o5 P3 eThen the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies" Y! w. w& X5 P" u) P* |
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
) H$ s" C' f1 D' o: gthat encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
+ f% K1 P) D; l# ]6 D, Z5 X: JAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,1 b, p, e: H6 l5 R% O
nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
  O" E+ m  H+ C; s" m/ B4 V然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
! n+ X! e1 f! i+ Q不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、7 Z& D$ ^2 Q; S: }& K9 k# f. o  [( C
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
7 ?' f$ V+ Y2 w! ^2 z# M那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。; b* |! T4 E; `% Y& ?6 s* p

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/ R8 \4 O+ e; r. Y. ^0 HNow we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
0 W# }' r  J% N8 T% U7 twhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them  p5 }. |9 Z) g4 m
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
2 }2 {' j7 c  a4 Fif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.4 E$ B6 s# \& U6 @
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
8 K9 g% y$ ?* R5 p5 ?如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?; {+ {+ o8 p& q$ M6 A* J% r8 o
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?, R  l" U. R8 d. ^4 r
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
1 y5 i  F" X% x; g* m, J. `2 ^假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。% ~( F) w+ R* Q3 g% P" A+ H
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。: G5 J8 ?: v" Z) B3 @- F

1 O! y0 v3 W2 ]/ {3 `. c, P( yFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder8 k) d1 ?5 N# O: g
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
; W2 l' a0 Y$ `" h9 M6 B0 I6 ~# O& \say, but question what the Bible says.6 M8 E8 f, [/ M& m- z6 k
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
& X, e+ o6 t6 ~' n6 s2 q5 m實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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# P. Q' ^, @4 zFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
1 _! }5 S: W6 A! X! _7 Y1 {wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
/ l& n7 S( o  M$ Y' n+ x! ~+ |5 p, ppeople think twice about sharing.2 y/ m2 H' e3 U' B. ^
實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;3 i* S4 ?3 J1 \/ X- D/ E$ N( B
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
; j9 a# o6 b7 s# a/ w人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
9 V8 c+ l9 Q! o8 Gthrough cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed  o# v! T& g. z- w( [! p
in the school and workplace.. ^7 f( I+ u0 B* {) q* q) h
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
2 l3 A. N; G# b* B. K透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;$ h( Y5 A, }/ S- f+ S, r
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。) p* I( |2 P% B) G/ d
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# n4 b6 A) O3 L' Y6 j' J; QAre you laughing?# ]. I. a# f0 U7 @3 `* z9 |
你笑了嗎?
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Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
* w5 T+ m  g0 O" {4 Vto many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,
/ r, [4 ~' t1 d( N# B/ A; ^or what they WILL think of you for sending it.
3 ^" t( a3 J# A+ w; d2 @8 }Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us. d: k2 T% T7 C% g3 v0 n: o
than what God thinks of us.
" }' |# z4 J; B! d9 a% @( m  p好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,+ E7 A& E+ S& Y; i) |  ^
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
& L5 P% x; L) n* R$ c' c1 K或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
! }3 b' \. f' X+ n  ?可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
9 [, H7 @) @& d& I) O! n0 ~, t而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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! O5 n+ v" {$ _8 v4 }; s: gPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...6 }; W. Y% c6 |9 ~! y( x8 }
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't
! h# I8 c  O4 \7 @. [# T# Csit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!" X7 I: C2 G& o
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話: |% J  K' ^* m+ P# k# T
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,- J, Y9 D2 K- C0 E$ p9 ]8 n
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,: m0 F4 k" r  W
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
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发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.; G9 g/ [; H; L) x

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上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
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发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
2 s# {" u1 S% m4 n; u  May God bless you!
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发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶7 d# ~" O- v% T0 ^3 Y* P- u2 {0 _
有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
. _; c9 f; O+ W! X2 O' u3 m2 L2 r这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。0 p  m, S1 W0 t- N$ J
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社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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