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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.' v+ E) }# z. ~+ ?  b* x

4 o6 p% r8 |. ^( c5 ]$ P0 zTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. % _* |/ W4 T! @& o9 D
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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" R8 X: n' d8 P/ B4 Y- K! ZNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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( ?+ g, K3 y6 s) D; r/ v2 ~"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. " a' A# f' l7 E: U: @
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.: e7 L) t. N' l& @9 z

/ j0 y  Y9 k2 y9 x# o3 x% zMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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# S) U4 @$ Q6 Y' q) @) l/ Y# h" ~TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。/ C% s* c0 }3 m3 x
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。% R2 P# l0 L0 D7 F  z9 F- @7 v2 ~; {
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 - u. p6 O; j: j( Q, C2 L4 p
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

" b- Q  Q1 Y" q, v. G# x) }8 Q7 O很多人都回学校深造去了; f8 X( {- b! _% K5 F# x
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
+ T% O' P6 H& @7 H0 Y  k* JWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
4 @# A8 a/ [! m+ h  Cboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton. L+ S0 Y2 T7 z: P% O+ P
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
& T4 ^8 m# u2 n" R+ ~) v2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
' j/ i" R* @0 Y: Z! N8 Aformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
" T6 O" G' ~6 P/ _from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,. m" e1 c1 D) h" v+ s2 Z, M0 I
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
! [" a) ~. D3 E: n4 smay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
* r" D: L: h2 j2 b1 ^- B3 Hpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed( {) n3 y  C- Y0 L) M3 s0 W" @3 z! t
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined$ Z, M6 D* o, E2 r
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year3 E  V! Z! V) j0 q' z+ ~( z8 ]% c: C
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this$ X% ~9 |  d; P0 X
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
9 `0 T0 F+ d1 }/ Jhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
, q% ]9 f2 g& v6 b. |  w3 T' a' L30,000 new households will form in the province during
7 ]6 {/ T: G: y; l( f2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
% Z8 H/ f2 x* T. ^Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
0 ~/ r' ~4 X4 e" y0 Ghomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
9 v( Z; T0 y+ t2 i$ U/ `during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta/ I- n$ G4 @; @! f
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
- M& a& n$ N" r8 lhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
0 o4 u" r% b' {$ X) pduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
! v: C) r& z, M2 S. x; c" Y7 Zsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
* }* x* r1 R$ T) u1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
' |9 \* Z  A2 K# rsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
. c( r: @# A% i% g2 Obuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in+ r/ z9 f% O8 S
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in$ b2 ~* ?* l, k% N+ p1 b+ B
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747( S, A0 w7 F% ~( e& L3 h
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
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resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s' V9 H( V8 Y$ F* h7 J' i
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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# i6 j/ O& @9 z" grapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
5 u/ i7 F! p6 G4 @# TThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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  x4 a5 I3 D) p8 [9 M; oAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan# J0 t  G8 ~$ [, L. b$ C
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even6 K" a( Z) f3 F$ u% j
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average8 H7 V4 s4 N% O" E) j: Q
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
9 i+ P. E; X6 H+ Bexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
7 X; Z( b. v( g* Ehomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’# R% M3 ~* R( C3 v
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
+ h7 a6 a4 Z9 ~- m! u! P6 VAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,+ B0 G0 X+ G9 Q! h! R" y
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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& c' z+ I9 @7 q2 Qhttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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