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高潮 · 发表于 2009-9-27 17:52

偶没有答案，你为什么不直接回答？

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 18:07

偶没有答案，你为什么不直接回答？
+ x A+ l# I$ z* ~高潮发表于 2009-9-27 18:52

那些不愿借钱给偶的基督徒，是不是“真正的基督徒”？ could be because You do not want to return. that means your "borrow" is not real "borrow".
如果偶问你借钱，你借不借？I already told you many times, yes , I am willing to lend money to you.

高潮 · 发表于 2009-9-27 18:14

本帖最后由高潮于 2009-9-27 19:17 编辑

那些不愿借钱给偶的基督徒，是不是“真正的基督徒”？ could be because You do not want to return. that means your "borrow" is not real "borrow".
: \' n6 h9 B3 U6 c如果偶问你借钱，你借不借？I already told you many time ...8 O9 a( B) t7 ^# e+ ^3 z
seancanada 发表于 2009-9-27 19:07

偶也说过好我次了，偶怕麻烦，偶不借钱了，偶直接向你要钱，不还的，你给不给？
耶稣说：有求你的，就给他。

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 18:39

偶也说过好我次了，偶怕麻烦，偶不借钱了，偶直接向你要钱，不还的，你给不给？
( k0 W5 \% n; |! c) M: b耶稣说：有求你的，就给他。
9 M' ^( J+ G1 r" f* o高潮发表于 2009-9-27 19:14

do you agree that Christians, who do not lend money to you, could be real Christian?

高潮 · 发表于 2009-9-27 18:47

do you agree that Christians, who do not lend money to you, could be real Christian?
( \/ t# ]" t; R7 Aseancanada 发表于 2009-9-27 19:39

那就要看你对real Christian的标准是什么了，偶不知道标准，所以也无从判断，这也是偶一直在问你的，不过，你一直回避real Christian标准的问题。
偶所能判断的，就是基督徒是否听耶稣的说话，如此而已~
当然，如果你认为不听耶稣说话的人，也算是real Christian的话，偶也没意见，只不过，不知其它人会怎样看基督教~

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 18:51

35# 高潮

Do not be so sensitive. I used "could be". It is not a trap.

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 18:58

本帖最后由 seancanada 于 2009-9-27 19:59 编辑

By the way, as for this test you gave me, I completely followed Jesus' teaching. I am willing to lend money to you.
Why do you still say I did not?

高潮 · 发表于 2009-9-27 18:59

本帖最后由高潮于 2009-9-27 20:00 编辑

35# 高潮
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Do not be so sensitive. I used "could be". It is not a trap.
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偶真的无法回答，你翻翻以前的旧帖，当基督徒指责那些干了坏事的神职人员不是“真正的基督徒”时，
偶就问他们，真正的基督徒标准是什么？你们凭什么说别人不是“真正的基督徒”？他们马上哑口无言了~
所以，没有标准，还有什么好说的呢？
不如就现在，你来说说“real Christian”的标准呀，你给出了标准，偶马上就可以回答你的问题，come on!

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 19:12

for example, 那些不愿借钱给偶的基督徒，是不是“真正的基督徒”？ this is a requirement. you know it . and give this challenge to many people including me. now, I am willing to lend money to you.
Do you think there could be real christains who do not lend money to you.

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 19:12

yes or no?

高潮 · 发表于 2009-9-27 19:19

for example, 那些不愿借钱给偶的基督徒，是不是“真正的基督徒”？ this is a requirement. you know it . and give this challenge to many people including me. now, I am willing to lend money to you. : J4 @0 u/ X, C" T: o$ s5 _: a
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seancanada 发表于 2009-9-27 20:12

你得先回答偶，不听耶稣说话的基督徒，算不算“真正的基督徒”？
如果存在不听耶稣说话的“真正基督徒”，and then there could be real christains who do not lend money to me.

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 19:26

你得先回答偶，不听耶稣说话的基督徒，算不算“真正的基督徒”？ I agree with you . they are not.
but I am willing to lend money to you. I follow his teaching. Do you think some peple ,like me, could be real christians?
you said :你给出了标准，偶马上就可以回答你的问题，come on!
please answer my question now.

高潮 · 发表于 2009-9-27 19:40

本帖最后由高潮于 2009-9-27 20:43 编辑

one that do not willing to lend me money is not a real christians.
one that do not willing to give me money is also not a real christians.

你看偶答得多爽快，不象你,扭扭捏捏的~

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 19:43

43# 高潮
why do not you answer me directly?

That means the people who are willing to lend you money could be real christians?
answer yes or no.

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 19:44

I have spent the whole day for "yes or no". you still do not give me answer.

高潮 · 发表于 2009-9-27 19:58

偶认为偶已经表达得足够清楚了，你44楼的问题和39楼的问题并不一样，
对39楼，no
对44楼，不能用yes or no 回答，肯借钱给偶，是“听耶稣说话”的必要条件，而不是充份条件，某基督徒可能愿意借钱给偶，但耶稣的其它说话却不听（比如不肯直接给钱偶），也不能算是real christians。

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 20:02

46# 高潮
once again, I said "could be". means possible. not must be.
answer me again.

高潮 · 发表于 2009-9-27 20:05

yes,肯借钱给偶的基督徒有可能是真正的基督徒。

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 20:12

本帖最后由 seancanada 于 2009-9-27 21:17 编辑

偶认为偶已经表达得足够清楚了，你44楼的问题和39楼的问题并不一样，( G* I: n* I h% [8 W
对39楼，no
# m0 t9 I/ n7 o# @+ ` W0 V2 |7 O对44楼，不能用yes or no 回答，肯借钱给偶，是“听耶稣说话”的必要条件，而不是充份条件，某基督徒可能愿意借钱给偶，但耶稣的其 ...) o2 W4 G. J+ ^4 h- o; J6 F
高潮发表于 2009-9-27 20:58

你44楼的问题和39楼的问题并不一样，same. some people are willing to lend money to you but find your "borrow" is not "borrow" becuase you do not want to return. So they do not lend money to you. they did not break the teaching about borrow. so They still could be real Christian.

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 20:16

本帖最后由 seancanada 于 2009-9-27 21:18 编辑

48# 高潮
Thanks. Finally, you believe there could be real christian in this world. That means your opinion has already been changed because you did not think Christians could lend money to you in this world . You are closer to God now.

高潮 · 发表于 2009-9-27 20:18

48# 高潮
; a6 H* c$ E- T$ B8 w: y. JThanks. Finally, you believe there could be real christian in this world. That means your opinion has already been changed because you do not think Christians could lend money to you in th ...& Z$ C& A& F9 c7 E" L9 ^% p- E
seancanada 发表于 2009-9-27 21:16

言归正转，你什么时候把钱给偶？

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 20:30

ok, good. let's enter next issue. but you have to tell me what you will do if I still do not disobey Jesus' teachings this time?

高潮 · 发表于 2009-9-27 20:37

本帖最后由高潮于 2009-9-27 21:41 编辑

ok, good. let's enter next issue. but you have to tell me what you will do if I still do not disobey Jesus' teachings this time?5 N1 S; G1 a. u9 q j
seancanada 发表于 2009-9-27 21:30

你如果不愿意把钱给偶，也没什么大不了的，你也不是第一个，偶见得太多了，偶可能会向下一个基督徒要~

关键是，基督徒是否愿意承认自己是不愿意给钱的，或者是在装腔作势，虚情假意地找藉口，表面上却装成恨不得马上把全部钱都给偶，呕~

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 20:43

But After our discussion, I am sure you will not ask money to other christians. Maybe one reason is you already get enough money from me.

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 20:48

你如果不愿意把钱给偶，也没什么大不了的，你也不是第一个，偶见得太多了，偶可能会向下一个基督徒要~ ) X, A- V. w0 l4 S$ }) D
关键是，基督徒是否愿意承认自己是不愿意给钱的，或者是在装腔作势，虚情假意地找藉口， ...
* O: ~$ a9 ~/ c0 T( y高潮发表于 2009-9-27 21:37

基督徒是否愿意承认自己是不愿意给钱的，或者是在装腔作势，虚情假意地找藉口,
These are your words, I need to listen to voice from both sides before I believe you.

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 20:52

ok, good. let's enter next issue. but you have to tell me what you will do if I still do not disobey Jesus' teachings this time?7 Q9 g- e8 u, f9 H ]5 O; o! G* F* L, u
seancanada 发表于 2009-9-27 21:30

I am waiting for your answer.

高潮 · 发表于 2009-9-27 20:54

基督徒是否愿意承认自己是不愿意给钱的，或者是在装腔作势，虚情假意地找藉口,' R- j0 ^8 c# U' R( S
These are your words, I need to listen to voice from both sides before I believe you.$ p( n8 Y& J8 g: t2 N" B. a
seancanada 发表于 2009-9-27 21:48

有的基督徒说，自己的钱不是自己的，是神的~
有的基督徒说，给三五十块可以，因为自己也在供车供屋（偶说为什么不把车子房子都卖掉

）
有的基督徒说，自己没有钱，也从来不买东西，全都是老公搞定的（就差没说自己从来没摸过钱了）~

轮到你了，你想怎样说？哈哈~

高潮 · 发表于 2009-9-27 20:56

本帖最后由高潮于 2009-9-27 21:57 编辑

I am waiting for your answer.9 w9 B; T3 y6 i. u0 z6 h$ {( {. q
seancanada 发表于 2009-9-27 21:52

偶不是答了你吗：偶可能会向下一个基督徒要
你放心，你不给钱，偶也不能将你怎样，不过耶稣如果知道，你认为耶稣会怎么想？

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 21:03

有的基督徒说，自己的钱不是自己的，是神的~
) b! q' A* n, G! g有的基督徒说，给三五十块可以，因为自己也在供车供屋（偶说为什么不把车子房子都卖掉）' W( S( _# T4 i) P
有的基督徒说，自己没有钱，也从来不买东西，全都是老公搞定的（就 ...# i3 P9 x# }/ [1 u8 |+ [ |9 W
高潮发表于 2009-9-27 21:54

I cannot prove it. But I totally agree that they refused giving money to you.
Do not worry. I may give you money. but you need to answer my question first. please do it quickly. Young people should be faster than older people.

seancanada · 发表于 2009-9-27 21:08

偶不是答了你吗：偶可能会向下一个基督徒要
4 X- C1 ~6 q) O你放心，你不给钱，偶也不能将你怎样，不过耶稣如果知道，你认为耶稣会怎么想？$ A3 Z) r) R3 r+ H# N4 E
高潮发表于 2009-9-27 21:56

你放心，你不给钱，偶也不能将你怎样，不过耶稣如果知道，你认为耶稣会怎么想？
Come on, harry up. I told you i will not disobey Jesus' teaching. Take your chance. Money is very near to you now.

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