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发表于 2015-10-21 08:46 | 显示全部楼层
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醉酒当歌 发表于 2015-10-21 09:45+ h* s! p4 G" a3 ~# H" |9 l+ E
素质不仅仅是教育素质,而是更重要的学习、分析、理解能力。民主意识与你举例说的做义工也不很相关,义工 ...

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发表于 2015-10-21 08:48 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
华人参政:在刚刚结束的加拿大联邦大选中,25位参选的华裔候选人XX有6位当选  此次联邦大选的华裔候选人中,代表保守党的有10位,自由党7位,新民党3位,绿党4人,名不见经传的加拿大自由意志言论者党1位。他们中年龄最小的是代表绿党的华裔大学生邱敏圣 Vincent Chiu,仅18岁。  当选的6位华裔分别是大多伦多地区的庄文浩(保守党)、谭耕(自由党)、陈家诺(自由党)、陈圣源(自由党),以及大温地区的关慧贞(新民党)和黄陈小萍(保守党)。其中谭耕是大陆背景的华人移民,曾留学多大,他成为了第一个进入加拿大国会的大陆人。  引人注目的是列治文中区的选举非常激烈,两位华裔各自代表保守党和自由党出战。胡以钧一度占据领先地位,但是在最后计票时刻,被在任的保守党代表黄陈小萍以400选票的微弱优势反超。  另外,在大选初期,备受争议的自由党列治文东区候选人苏立道(加籍意大利人)在党内提名时取代了声望极高的华裔袁薇出选,结果顺利为自由党赢得该选区。  温哥华华裔候选人战果 列治文中选区(Richmond Centre),自由党胡以钧(Lawrence Woo)胜出。  温哥华东选区(Vancouver East),新民主党派关慧贞(Jenny Kwan)胜出。  温哥华南选区(Vancouver South),温哥华京士威(Vancouver Kingsway)选区,史蒂夫斯顿-列治文东选区(Steveston-Richmond East)选区的华人候选人均惜败。  全国一共有29名华裔背景的候选人,来自6个不同的政党,以及一名独立参选人,共计6人当选,当选率为20.6%,低于上一届(上届22名华裔参选,7人晋身国会,比率31%)。  就地区而言,当选的华人议员都位于安省和BC省。 华人参选跟对人,跟对党很重要: 10个保守党华人候选人参选,就一人当选,胜率仅10%; 7个华人自由党,有4人当选,胜率高达57%; 新民党的胜率也仅有25%; 其他自以为是的参选人的胜率是0.  首位大陆华人入选国会  中国大陆移民谭耕成功当选
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发表于 2015-10-21 09:01 | 显示全部楼层
Indo-Canadian candidates win record 19 seats in parliamentary elections5 Z4 ?6 R4 j* p% V$ L7 x, d: ]
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15 Indo-Canadian Liberal candidates won, while only 3 from Conservative Party got elected in the general elections to 338 seats. An Indo-Canadian belonging to New Democratic Party (NDP) also won.
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爱城华人十万?上次参加联邦选举的华人是N年前的戴为群?
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发表于 2015-10-21 09:05 | 显示全部楼层
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印裔参选和当选人数远超华裔. 值得华人学习.
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发表于 2015-10-21 09:14 | 显示全部楼层
Indian-Canadians make up over three per cent of Canada’s population of about 35 million and have become a significant political force. There were eight lawmakers of Indian-origin in Canada in 2011.  
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发表于 2015-10-21 09:15 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
古井贡 发表于 2015-10-21 10:05$ z; k. D6 i. G  ]6 w
印裔参选和当选人数远超华裔. 值得华人学习.

) s# h0 q. Z; G+ I同意!!支持华人多做政治家。
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发表于 2015-10-21 09:17 | 显示全部楼层
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呵呵,看看有的中国人在干什么?3 t* d/ r6 l' H6 B: V
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B.C. NDP candidate Frank Huang denies he is in Chinese communist party. \6 ]$ r# p" e0 D) ?" y# y
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VANCOUVER — Frank Huang was a Chinese communist. He joined the Communist Party of China voluntarily in 1991 after being assigned a government job in Guangdong that had him arranging visits and tours for Chinese expatriates. Mr. Huang is now the B.C. NDP candidate in Richmond Centre, a suburban Vancouver riding with a large Asian population. He says he decided to compete in the B.C. election to better serve his adopted country and province. “I love Canada,” says the 49-year-old.
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. @# l; y8 O* v# W! THe insists his Communist Party affiliation was merely pragmatic and it ended a dozen years ago after he left mainland China for B.C. and began a career in journalism. Others aren’t so sure about that. Concerns were first raised publicly in late April, when the co-chairman of something called the Premier’s Chinese Community Advisory Committee challenged Mr. Huang’s integrity during a candidates forum in Richmond.5 H+ a  `* k2 n5 Q6 [' J8 M
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Kenneth Fung is a clinical associate professor at the University of British Columbia and has sat on various volunteer advisory committees in B.C. for decades, under six different  provincial premiers. He served as the Chinese Community committee chairman until the election writ was dropped last month and the group was dissolved. He does not work for Premier Christy Clark and he is not a B.C. Liberal member, according to party staff.# ~2 R5 P5 v' E- _+ ?3 i( i
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    Brian Hutchinson: ‘Chinkasaurus’ comment makes B.C. NDP candidate latest poster child for dubious conduct0 s/ p/ U' D2 y  {9 R+ }
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But last month, Dr. Fung contacted the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, the national spy agency, asking it to look closely at Mr. Huang. “So far I have received nothing, not even confirmation of my request,” Dr. Fung said in email he sent to the National Post on Tuesday.2 h* _- b/ c, p5 y( z

; \; w1 A# o; q. Y- bHe also spread word around Vancouver’s Chinese-language media: Mainland Chinese communists may have infiltrated B.C. politics, he suggested. He didn’t stop there. A few days ago, Dr. Fung emailed the mainstream press. “The people of B.C. deserves [sic] to be informed about this dangerously flawed candidate background checking by the NDP,” he wrote.
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0 m- X: M! L6 Q“I am concerned that Frank Huang is hiding his background,” Dr. Fung told the National Post in an email he sent Tuesday. (Dr. Fung said that he is in Lourdes, France, “doing volunteer medical work” and could only be interviewed by email rather than telephone.)
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“I am concerned that if indeed the NDP becomes the next B.C. government, a [sic] MLA like Frank Huang would have access to many government confidential data and policy,” he wrote. “He can secretly rejoin (if indeed he is no longer as he claims) the Chinese Communist party anytime and I suspect he is presently an underground member.”+ i* T/ q  V' t* v

) C4 r$ K( O5 T0 eDr. Fung has also taken to local talk radio, slagging Mr. Huang’s language skills. “I’ve got news for you,” he told CKNW radio host Sean Leslie late last month. “Did you know that the NDP is running a candidate in Richmond Centre by the name of Frank Huang who can’t really communicate in English?”
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4 V" T* l0 l8 x8 ?0 P- G  ?That was petty and it is false. Worse, Dr. Fung made the CKNW call under an assumed name, referring to himself as “Mike in Vancouver.”
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/ f* k  B( \5 V, o( }0 JWhy would an esteemed, purportedly apolitical UBC professor who helps the infirm in Lourdes pull such a stunt? “When I call in to CKNW Leslie show, I was nobody,” Dr. Fung struggled to explain via email on Tuesday. “I did not want to use my real name because I do not want any reprisal. But now I know the NDP is monitor  everything!”
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  M4 `! E( `/ F* ^/ P0 j2 SDr. Fung’s more serious allegations about candidate Huang are apparently based on “people well-connected with the Chinese government,” whom he refuses to name, and on exchanges he’s had with the B.C. Conservative Party’s candidate in Richmond Centre, Lawrence Chen.' |6 Z$ B; K2 w' j, E7 B

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% [) [: t" q% @% LIn 2007, says Mr. Chen, he was interviewed in his Richmond home by none other than Frank Huang. “He told me that he was working on behalf of the People’s Daily, which is China’s Communist Party newspaper,” Mr. Chen recalls. “He said he wanted to visit with me in secret and he would write a story about the Nation Alliance. He said he was still a Communist Party member.”
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He did not tell Mr. Chen that he was a communist, he says. He only joined the party to improve his employment prospects in China and it worked, he says, adding that his membership simply expired when he moved to Canada. The B.C. NDP was made aware of all that when he won the party’s nomination in Richmond Centre. “They said it’s not a problem because I’m now a Canadian citizen,” he says.* R( d) h( |/ ?6 V
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以后骂人就骂你是精英,竞选都喊为了族群-- 我高兴看华人参政,但我不会因为是华人面孔就无条件支持,除非顺便多赠一票。请未来的精英们积极参政,但先打声儿招呼,不要用你是华人和为了族群来忽悠,来点实在的真东西。
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发表于 2015-10-21 09:38 | 显示全部楼层
麦子谷子 发表于 2015-10-21 10:28
, g1 B- _# ~) B8 M以后骂人就骂你是精英,竞选都喊为了族群-- 我高兴看华人参政,但我不会因为是华人面孔就无条件支持,除非 ...

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后来为了马先生又入了另外一个党% |% S2 d5 j5 N" R& X" t9 M

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如果只是为了族群就能当选,那华人这么多,如果都被忽悠了,白痴都能进国会!还是拿出真东西来,那之后,华人齐心协力。。。。。。这是我的本意。
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发表于 2015-10-21 10:19 | 显示全部楼层
古井贡 发表于 2015-10-21 10:05  @1 U) @; l# A) q* f+ `
印裔参选和当选人数远超华裔. 值得华人学习.
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说起来容易做起来太难。
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发表于 2015-10-21 17:41 | 显示全部楼层
这次选举据说华人比往年多。可能是因为经济不好大家对这关注度多了。
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发表于 2015-10-21 19:20 | 显示全部楼层
同言同羽 置业良晨
这个小特鲁多我觉得除了帅意外,真的没觉得比Harper哪强,看他的履历感觉真不如Harper.
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醉酒当歌 发表于 2015-10-21 09:45
" y* |3 B/ n, G5 \2 T5 g素质不仅仅是教育素质,而是更重要的学习、分析、理解能力。民主意识与你举例说的做义工也不很相关,义工 ...

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学习,分析,理解的能力固然重要,但更重要的是,如黑格尔所说,要“敢于怀疑一切。”* ^( a" H6 F1 K+ w( Y. _
有独立思考的能力。不要过于迷信权威和思维定式。8 j$ K0 `1 j, X7 }( g

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在信仰方面,如果你是基督徒,不要被牧师个人对圣经的解读捆住,一切最高的准则,在圣经里,在神的话语里。圣经里说不能做的,坚决不做。圣经没有说的,要去学习,了解。* q  m% c& L+ v+ l6 N( y

2 ~0 U, x# P0 B- m( W我们在大陆来的这一两代人,都是在应试教育体制下长大的,很看重分数。
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+ K. Q% s7 c" d# K2 i缺乏批判,辨别,去伪存真的能力。缺乏对事物合理性,及潜在问题的全面评估。
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如果有这样的能力,就不会看到很多人在整天为大麻,厕所烦恼,谩骂。有时间多去学习,利弊自己分析,不要一窝蜂的,被某些保粉一忽悠,望文生义,群起而攻之。文革的殷鉴不远,希望我们不要都这么容易被忽悠,然后义愤填膺的去革自己不喜欢的东西的命。; ?3 f$ m6 [' V
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钱宝 发表于 2015-10-21 20:20# p# v4 g9 h7 Z& [! d
这个小特鲁多我觉得除了帅意外,真的没觉得比Harper哪强,看他的履历感觉真不如Harper.

: h  A3 l1 t! V, ^  M如果看简历,林肯不过是从鞋店的学徒起步,是不是不该做总统呢?
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这个时代不缺少才大于德,经历显赫的人,太多这样的人掌权,绝对是一个大危险。
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如果看简历,林肯不过是从鞋店的学徒起步,是不是不该做总统呢?; z6 d: s4 D5 ]* F, ^. E
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这个时代不缺少才大于德,经历显赫的 ...
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一看你就不知道两个人的背景。Harper背景比小布鲁多差远了。小布鲁多就是个富二代。无论他的学历跟工作都是一换再换。我不觉得这样的人能做了什么事情。就这几个党当政真的矬子里拔大个而已。
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一看你就不知道两个人的背景。Harper背景比小布鲁多差远了。小布鲁多就是个富二代。无论他的学历跟工作都 ...

5 i6 s5 w  Y, |; \2 b8 ~" t) s刘邦在乡里也是个下三滥,游手好闲的无赖,可能最适合他做的就是皇帝了。
/ _7 h, n! m, A  A小特至少还做过几年mp对国会熟悉。
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nanoEM 发表于 2015-10-22 00:03+ V1 I6 P" S) L8 L' u
刘邦在乡里也是个下三滥,游手好闲的无赖,可能最适合他做的就是皇帝了。2 y. t& O" `4 h' j0 }4 s
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就他?切。一个学literature出身的在国会几年能怎么的,他有啥作为何德何能啊?靠脸蛋靠嘴皮子考古靠广告。加拿大也是个拼爹的时代快赶上天朝了。。小的孤落寡闻没见别人学文学能当场总统的,就他要不是他爸他还真没这个资历。就这几个破党,没有最烂,只有更烂。加拿大经济不好赶上石油大跌这个时候,harper撞枪口上了。
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钱宝 发表于 2015-10-22 00:12* t: N# N! }8 x5 d: u
就他?切。一个学literature出身的在国会几年能怎么的,他有啥作为何德何能啊?靠脸蛋靠嘴皮子考古靠广告 ...
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我们的毛太祖文学都没念过,刘邦,朱元璋都是草根,没文化的,不照样治国。
2 H( @7 z# S& `& @4 `* D其实当这样大领导的,不在于你的能力怎样,而在于你能不能建一个好的团队,并把众人笼络住。让众人各司其职,帮你一同治国。简单讲,和黑社会大哥一样道理。刘邦得了天下说过三句话,我统兵不如韩信,识人不及萧何,运筹帷幄更是不及张良。可是他能选对,用对,笼络住人。6 l1 o3 T' y: r8 D( }! L
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好,就算哈珀能力很强,可是他内阁,参议院里都是什么货色?他自己和别人的关系怎样?
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, n, b: G6 O1 V( L$ M( h真的,不怕神一样的对手,就怕猪一样的队友,哈珀一半是栽在他自己,另一半在自己的队友手里。
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