說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表 , C! c6 q9 W+ }% U, [# x" @: |
学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 # S' q9 O# O1 f6 W
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

[ 本帖最后由冷眼看世界于 2007-5-30 02:12 编辑 ]

西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
5 [5 ^+ [% r) M5 j楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 ) e6 z; Y" t% }- Q# P
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE' b) O) h5 ~" P+ ?$ A8 L	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE. l$ e2 V- {6 o# a6 m
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport4 Y. S9 D# t- k% o	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE: F( N; c# ?' i7 e: f, V
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE ' s9 Y, o0 Z5 t, X9 a	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX 9 Y/ o: j7 Q' ^
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5. N/ E7 b+ P- Q4 }	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5 % m8 _. _$ Z0 S$ n
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE+ N$ s( A" C' p; ~	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE$ V* p" t1 G) p. X" E* _3 z6 n
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE : t: Y% q0 S9 k g# \# O% X: w	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX + T/ l# @4 }6 Q, K5 {' W5 k' ^
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid% Y; m& Q/ }) f/ m1 R	• 1996 Toyota Corolla ' S% u/ z( ^% I; q6 X7 P
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited 6 l4 q3 p5 V3 ?5 F8 }- h* e	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 & ^' P, ]) _9 \|9 A; ?7 `; E
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE/ j3 P, C# e9 P( @. q	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE ; f1 s- S6 n d, R9 v1 U& w$ G
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE% d3 W4 j& W. z* {	• 1996 Toyota T-100 1 F: m7 i, [2 u" y: _4 f; M
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE + P1 s% i8 o' F	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST, V% o: ^ a' @, u
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited 6 K( j+ B' {7 Y# \|5 O6 K, n	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited & X9 {3 m p9 c4 P' }8 I5 [" \|1 Q
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ) S$ t2 N% H# \! k; u	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX . W; j2 g7 E" r7 N8 r3 S) _
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE ' j6 H9 w' B! }' l	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 8 v+ U5 A0 i2 u; H
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE! ^' C ^. L+ ?1 o: F; p" i7 R0 `% h	• 1996 Toyota Tercel 6 _+ p1 v: `# l9 x
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5! t7 j$ Y1 x+ F) Q5 J	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX) I. ~. \|0 e, q2 P
• 2006 Toyota Tundra + E2 i3 k% Z( R; V- G W	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT- O5 \|: K; q6 V) D; E. j
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS% p5 j! }2 ~! f( N. x* q: v. E5 l	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma 9 w8 t: g% D9 z5 K+ I
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL# }! H# B3 k' I4 V$ N' i	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner $ u b, \|' \|+ k4 d
• 2006 Toyota Prius 7 [3 n3 h# G. ~2 R- I$ T1 X( w	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX % ] B! i. h: u- j
• 2006 Toyota Camry * X0 z8 k1 y) d/ A6 ?	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 1 f+ d; Z) Z* @
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring % e8 E8 e% e+ u {	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE $ U: {5 x3 w2 `# {
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 1 ]; g6 Z7 _1 C, j	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE 8 P3 o5 F! C' m; U+ `0 Q
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE2 \|6 k$ r$ h& a" K0 ]	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton. K' r; m! }* `2 o) x, q9 L
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited ( E# K" M. R5 D* h2 g, y! l	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 0 l4 k3 ?; `1 D' [
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner + E+ _2 R7 `1 e1 ~8 H	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 ! w& _( P7 ]! Z9 r% p0 R
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 6 s" x& I, e Z# D4 R+ k* V! P	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX$ f" g5 Y8 p1 E$ m0 \- @% ]% s0 N
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S H; B7 V/ S4 U0 o: i- e	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX * B. z- @1 N! D
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited ' [. T0 B+ G" Q; f& L	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 % Q. m2 X: v% v- k9 ]' @. C
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE ' x! W' R7 R& B9 o* d	• 1995 Toyota Tercel $ u, h: y5 K8 Z! T' H, u' q
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS ' m# R/ H% S0 l" N* ^9 q	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 5 a3 T) \2 V0 } Z5 V; N. Z
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner3 `; ?1 \|5 M3 h5 \|% R7 e$ a* X* b	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX% @ J* D2 y/ }, u& `
• 2005 Toyota Tundra $ O. ]9 R" t5 h+ J* R	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE, e$ u" B1 ~1 ]# s3 t! V
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 4 g6 l B7 R6 X0 V# z& e	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX 7 [8 c) [ }- ^5 X2 O9 K! n. e. P- ]
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR55 e& G3 T4 J( {$ ^2 ?# C6 y; ~	• 1995 Toyota T-100 1 L$ D$ j* K: j7 Q& t7 J3 y
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited + z) I1 R. }' J( E( l7 V( e	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma / N& Z) q5 N, {& E$ \|+ X) Z0 t
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL ' E9 ]% A; t0 \) r" i" C	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE 1 e7 o; P) c' Q. K8 m! \
• 2005 Toyota Camry " U' h9 g9 W ~3 J	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 - q8 d/ D# G; z3 j! W* Q2 w
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring, \" e( n; p+ n. T& p7 Z; c$ f	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX 2 _# f" X2 p% u! z$ q# H
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE 7 U5 x3 \' S$ z- ^7 B( \	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX% h$ Z0 M1 S$ L
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE* x3 [5 Q+ X& E( J& c6 ?* r: O	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX - T( x2 W. \|0 f) W$ U) j
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited $ h# c) B4 n; r- ]3 g	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 9 P& r) L& M; w. R+ y- k! s
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma 6 W* l( g8 `5 S% l- p	• 1994 Toyota Pickup / }0 W \ G7 u& \|. ~
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S6 ?, K* u. @: y2 w) O	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE9 V5 N6 j' a8 d! }* ^8 \+ J4 r/ J
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE & U8 e' C% g) g5 ], I	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE2 S& g5 C8 A( x, T, G
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited& I- _) ~; r# F; A	• 1994 Toyota T-100 % g% R: ?5 N( b+ q N5 d( O
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 . R4 Z: }. Y* k* k2 q w- S	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 ' T! n5 E. s' q
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE 7 _: P! \5 T3 l/ ^	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE * T' q& w# g2 w- c$ \|# L
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 5 O2 W5 ?$ ^8 `	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX : s, A. T8 j1 r! ?; Y9 m7 r
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS ! B# o% ], X2 ?( z5 S	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR51 k. n) c' D" j4 D) s
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE 6 \|% X5 f, c- L. ~& b3 e# m( H; X	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE! H: {( D+ o: ?
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE " M4 y& ~# u" \4 _- ?- w6 q7 U: v	• 1994 Toyota Corolla 0 u2 X2 ~) X' B E
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited+ U& u" x) M* q# t: T	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton , C% r* i1 ]3 c% J$ J
• 2005 Toyota Highlander ; W( h! j$ ?, C5 P	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE; c+ o; B! m1 J& ?$ ^$ Q7 y6 M
• 2005 Toyota Prius ( k- ?" x* b8 }8 h' ]' [/ [	• 1993 Toyota Corolla 9 w% \|/ w5 m* L5 R9 R( ?6 M
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE 2 u+ I$ ^& n" d	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton & m1 z! C% A: b" C# @1 z& s7 S
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE ' j4 E% e: J9 [0 E6 i	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ! K" P5 A2 @# B. a" q
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited7 t$ O$ u* t9 D3 m' B+ }2 [	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX * _0 ]8 F* U! W, C1 p
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ) x5 ?$ T h e& w; K	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX & E, V. d7 N1 E( h2 _
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE- z2 ^3 g( C0 u7 A" S1 c2 B	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX9 q8 Z4 [& ], Z) \- C" c8 r
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE( I/ B0 U s+ p! M3 g" O	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser ) m" Y8 H2 L: o7 R, p+ t
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE 9 h/ e( E9 h+ ? S1 k	• 1993 Toyota T-100 ( m2 y5 R' i2 J( ~+ b
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE - B0 l5 t" N* t& F) P5 U1 l	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE 7 R$ S6 \| ^3 W" j
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited 8 P9 r$ M( H% E. _9 \|* o8 q	• 1993 Toyota Pickup I1 X, ^2 D- \4 R
• 2004 Toyota Prius $ Y7 P; R- X2 B& K1 p	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE 8 f$ C5 `- Y9 Q+ P
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma 1 O. f* \|' s5 x Y# Y2 V2 K2 X% Z	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE $ z6 ^) r5 r6 Q+ j
• 2004 Toyota Tundra + V) e- Y# m. \|1 D0 Y	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5- G% v5 o2 C d* i: k
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE& g8 o' @ s. D	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5- t$ [2 h& _% \' a& f4 Z: m
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited - D/ l2 {7 o/ ~" L' v, R	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE 3 K3 e0 m& v" q @' z
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited6 w3 Q9 D. b: x* O: g$ x	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE 7 r( d1 o! ]0 k! \/ Q( p; ?
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE; d5 i: v5 I, v; o b	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX% B. f+ H2 a/ V8 g) s
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE 2 m; S& q+ [( [3 A4 D5 F	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE / A* N& ~: R. g, I ~8 p: ?
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE, H7 B! S0 O% l' U: T! X' d4 X	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac : k& \|3 U0 f/ C* c
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited# C* \|4 w7 @+ p: B" x	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton " K, ]" T7 {8 \$ f4 I3 K- R1 V
• 2004 Toyota Highlander ) Q+ X+ H# Y, y# n. @- T/ O	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE/ L; D: S& t. d: W/ G: U# }' R
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 1 ~ c& o7 ^2 E" _0 j1 _	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 6 G6 W& I5 x( K; @6 A$ H
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S3 k I: V! Y& b6 j% x5 o	• 1992 Toyota MR2 0 g% E2 M, z% E w
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner7 d1 @0 J o E& D* l, b	• 1992 Toyota Pickup - u7 e( n7 H& }- f, S; k& x9 a
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 ( j( p B; e* E4 [2 ~	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX# r: \5 i( k, b0 r- c- v; a# o% O
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS & i( ^+ R1 D, y) A3 V	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac 2 V2 w3 @9 _& x
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner7 U: S L& s3 o, U% M3 h5 z	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR50 W8 l2 l# o; o
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S, \|% G# C4 k" L% J1 m	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX g3 w0 x \|: e0 q: F3 _" P
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited 4 f" s2 p9 j' ?9 l, u	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR53 ]# Z. E# U1 I1 V3 ]6 u& b7 o7 e
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner/ f, K. X f7 _' ?( W" m" S	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser , a3 R' o3 F. ?' x( m
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 ) y- \' _9 i4 U. l/ ~9 \. W( t	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof ' m$ _) j: H- y6 [# g7 u, P: b
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited 9 B3 T+ E, ?( L' d: E	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE 4 {: U- y6 p/ d& @
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE / I6 {( }& ~# _* G4 k' G	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 6 T! _6 q' z& x. _3 e% E3 h
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT ' b2 P0 i- n; k/ `( U$ N- S8 \. w	• 1991 Toyota Camry 5 x2 q% R! O9 i; Z& r( Y' {7 @
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE 5 q- b) a; @6 z3 N- Y6 s* O	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 k3 Z4 x' Z+ T6 \|# L6 ]
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 1 Q8 }% u. t2 v/ T	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 7 L+ }/ n& o) W& A1 ?$ Q
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma 1 r8 `5 c% W0 J0 e) ^0 J	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX 1 g( W) a* @$ X7 P: h
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 0 S" q& b% a5 W) R	• 1991 Toyota MR2 ) }! P* P. W* O# B- U3 L$ _
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE. Q, _ A/ m4 N1 G2 i+ E	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR58 D3 b3 u6 Y, H5 N2 N8 T$ ~
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited% e3 `" w, \|3 J	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX' M d+ s, K; h9 ^8 Q: ~
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE & Y: w9 u" @6 _$ e, {$ F- e" j( I	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac / o4 s9 F; a4 v; n/ H$ H. ]4 w' O
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 2 X% t- V5 u; S# z6 A	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac , E O6 x: E) t& U4 W# ^
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE ) p' @+ E+ o6 A9 M2 m	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof \7 X6 B% B6 \' u$ H
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE; D+ `# M8 S* q0 U3 [# G& Z	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX / g! K7 I+ \|8 @# m4 `& x, [
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited ; W8 R9 d1 b. T	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE " A7 p1 z3 W6 @3 K$ i
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited& I7 H6 U. @1 d. Z	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton" m8 {) K2 y% {9 h- @, j5 \|
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited% W! H; `6 m% Q) ~$ v% U2 \	• 1990 Toyota Pickup $ j- Z; H2 f: F$ c, M. F
• 2002 Toyota ECHO + m) Z" e3 e# @7 N$ t	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE g8 {' ~' ^/ g
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE0 v6 I. g; @/ Y+ {6 F4 i7 _	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 ) V/ M) Y' i6 H! c# F! s3 z" Q# S3 d
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited 0 _2 N: f' M) k1 M: u4 Y! ]5 j8 \|	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ: s. `! \8 r1 K' j8 O
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE ( {* x9 i" Z2 t9 A9 S9 a	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT0 g! V7 A! N0 w
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT) p' a1 T) N J+ Z/ D: w	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base+ {9 i% }2 U6 m
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner' w& H5 e: H1 d o l, B# D	• 1990 Toyota Camry 1 h# u- a L+ \|3 E: t, _
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S & K7 s3 a+ k! f0 z. f7 E" }	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST $ l3 q' m. ^" m! Z
• 2002 Toyota Highlander 0 {5 ?: e# x7 V! M	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX3 o L+ u# c4 M- Q
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner . T; q* r4 Z: i5 p" F	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX" B3 w5 p( y0 \9 F* B" g
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 : B+ o O4 U: X% q* c, k# F& J	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 0 j A1 z( s+ ~% i. ~& I. U7 K: v1 q
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 + D5 d0 K" I/ M; b l. o	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS , B+ l/ ?% _; }/ M( `! Z
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE6 j2 B' r/ t4 X/ ~& c( y	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 5 c0 E+ z: @9 E9 W
• 2002 Toyota Prius 3 a) i8 Q2 n, m. i* y	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 2 ]( A& S& F* c9 ~3 C/ Y- g
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 A4 L( r# Z& C3 C9 b: {	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX + U* U7 a9 X D
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS* \4 D! Y- w" o$ M: {	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac v+ {* u- b6 T, \# Y
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE 9 n4 k$ s' _6 A& I/ p) ?; I	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac ( s8 j [) o- A
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma + g0 X# ]2 u( v) g5 \	• 1990 Toyota Tercel ' J% t, n% c( A
• 2002 Toyota Tundra " Y% \5 M6 S, m& m7 m	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 5 w; {# ~7 C8 j6 X B9 c) }
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE , t# C9 R. U$ j. m: n	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac7 m U Z# I. t+ ^; u( L
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE4 F( x0 G! H; [( g* V	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger/ T0 w7 [- j$ M M+ ^
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL " \|8 P$ _. v1 c) z, U	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base( D4 G, A$ {0 m' Z2 \|
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited/ X, y+ H4 p+ O7 r	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac5 E4 p$ m) I ?) R0 c1 T
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT . n9 B; ], T& {3 f: H" u: T3 _2 n	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser ) B; `' S0 f( B* Y) e. y" Y
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE / c' t2 {1 t E: r( l2 W i	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE) H$ f( \|0 k& p9 e! o V
• 2001 Toyota Prius 2 c6 y% ?; f) A3 t7 t+ l	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX L; b- E! b/ V9 F( P s
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma ( u# O4 Z1 q4 d& ?4 _0 E- }" q+ U! ]	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 5 Y; L. w# ~9 w0 ]! N
• 2001 Toyota Tundra , A( \|: l7 _/ J* E. I1 N4 m	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger # X7 d$ Y* d6 H5 o" K9 Y$ K2 s" d
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE 6 x$ c% Q, l6 K9 m) k/ h- c	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX : V1 A) M; S% y6 R0 Y1 l
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited + f/ y* S5 ?* b/ g4 ?* i	• 1989 Toyota Camry ) b! F: b# a3 L4 y" b4 x+ B
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4 [- @/ N S) H	• 1989 Toyota Tercel , Z. Q* }! k+ p, J8 X! g% y/ N
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE 4 V6 V1 H/ r5 W2 o0 e3 }	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX , i2 D4 T9 x0 i& F
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE ( R( d2 _0 }8 ^2 h* s+ p( {	• 1989 Toyota Pickup # }, L+ o z7 _
• 2001 Toyota ECHO 0 z9 M+ x& F4 Z& o3 t v	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 " W2 ?9 H( {$ z+ z
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS * \|$ i! ~- ^7 x! z$ O1 ^3 z N1 {	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger ^1 \7 B( \, ?9 E9 g+ q
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE+ d' S" n g# g! _* X, K	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ7 s; D2 b0 L. b5 t6 N/ a& H+ D
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 3 T4 @; ?) H' L9 s	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel + ?% ]! f; i5 O/ u& W; O4 S4 Y
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner& M! C7 z, b) \|1 }; q& o4 b$ v9 o	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX 9 \|! c* {2 i1 I. w
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS, L2 J" G* z3 I- x% \|# Y$ `0 Q	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ1 @! ~7 y0 C1 ?, f
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S+ T3 H! \|( V6 q	• 1988 Toyota Camry - h* V1 n& O+ \3 J; b
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner- ], l n3 N2 l" m! E	• 1988 Toyota Pickup % G; Q6 n& [( F0 \|' A0 L5 b
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 " k1 \|+ N! H/ T T! }. o; Z- s	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger; t) b2 Y) W0 K. j/ n0 `
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE ^/ {: P1 z8 N, ~; f+ I( z* A	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX # G; w: \|( E+ m T+ \ V
• 2001 Toyota Highlander	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac c* m2 o) `2 ]& ~( G
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited) [( k* s6 Y- C4 i) [/ d, s0 J	• 1988 Toyota Van DX 0 {8 R0 _- {& ^5 y6 v. n7 {
• 2000 Toyota ECHO ! h; { [% r* K" j- a o	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger 2 P6 P1 R1 s9 E
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma ) h2 K) Y! r# c6 t% s	• 1988 Toyota Tercel : Z! I6 G6 K# M$ a3 t
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT; ~ k# o: K k1 h	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE9 y1 m C- o. ^& `" ^2 U
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE 8 \|1 S. _ B" S6 J	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window ( U6 t- X. M; r4 p. Y/ l
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 % \+ O9 O+ F( g& c- l	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton 1 E; c, X$ P3 g9 V% h6 {1 Z5 C
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 5 {& i5 l! d- v6 Z4 y	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser : d& u; m0 q& I& z: ?; s
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5/ R3 C5 A7 m& T" E. J6 V# a	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 ) [( l2 w0 M/ n3 `
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited, V7 G% N B- S( Q4 y. m9 T	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 1 U5 _, H. w4 m" Y: W# s" h
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE' ?* e, S# r n+ _: o& V	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B . n2 H# M, q' T: D
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS 6 h+ s2 R+ v+ x9 J. T# R5 @+ N# h. b; g	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 1 y! Z: N7 e" k8 D' p1 j
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE# m( ?3 [* A2 J& J9 T- }	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger- B$ P: y- {9 K& N
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara ) h. H6 ?3 V3 w& C9 u5 m5 b; M3 o0 \	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR56 w. j/ o8 V8 X, g( x, q' o7 B8 [
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited ; x% U* g% L9 @! S0 `	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX5 \|7 B% T! M* ?
• 2000 Toyota Tundra 5 Q' W- y* ]( @2 x	• 1988 Toyota Van LE 5 `8 L& j# o; P
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS2 J% p) d7 c5 H: ~	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser ' ^3 T9 ~# f$ Y+ W
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE 7 u z( \. o) u7 t( U	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 & T2 R+ t: v+ \|) R
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited / g" P/ z0 X& A% n4 e5 k. p$ O	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE* V8 }( T- Y( t8 \|/ A5 H0 l
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner r6 K2 {3 u/ o8 v' {	• 1987 Toyota Van DX' C- P0 G# W( k: M
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE 7 L1 I/ [, d/ p0 J3 p: t0 S6 Y	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window, z: k& m6 o- o
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ' z, d1 M8 o- Z7 G	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton 4 d; o) S/ I7 }: m* j( F
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE % m9 H6 C, U, W	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 + k5 Y- H& S' i
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL * j. W" J: Y& y3 @ m. z! ]/ j	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX N3 Q; o9 ^' S3 G/ e$ p& X/ ?7 m; ^
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 2 A, H1 q3 Z% A& Z4 u# X5 a) t	• 1987 Toyota Tercel : A, t/ x1 ?; I2 s
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE5 {0 a4 X8 \/ M5 {! a	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX : \|0 v1 {$ [, i7 z. w# i( [
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR59 u# D# K ~5 r) M9 G$ s	• 1987 Toyota Van LE R0 f9 L9 e' Z8 @' y% R
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE " y9 T \' C h; C% l	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel * J O' C6 i2 a
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE- A: F3 V' R2 L9 f, S/ }	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX / \$ O% S) ?" i6 V
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma , x: `4 M7 g$ B( S; d1 P1 t8 y, f+ M	• 1987 Toyota Pickup - Q# E/ J! I, \|" @2 w \: {
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS" ]- ^6 \|0 t( S) J	• 1986 Toyota Van LE/ b7 I. `6 U+ \7 z) k
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE 8 S6 g1 S) ^. p3 F	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 Y8 z' V7 h. K( a
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner $ r( Y& ]$ ^0 O1 X4 P" s	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel/ F- C- u8 B z6 ~8 s. L/ f! _4 S
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 & U+ U' j" \|& C# W3 S	• 1986 Toyota Van DX $ R4 O( ~; g l0 }) @
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited* z/ j8 f+ U' C# Q	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window 7 p. t) u& P/ \|) T8 o' n
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE 5 e4 j7 C% j' U9 k. r8 [9 m8 R	• 1985 Toyota Van 0 y$ [1 V+ e5 z. B: `0 [$ \- i
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE - K8 v+ @- ?% B& I3 e( e7 F) E	• 1985 Toyota Van LE 4 N6 A, s1 ^( T8 G, ]
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL7 w5 D/ r; N6 _- Q	• 1985 Toyota Van DX! N" J! P- U( p0 \|/ F1 U+ U
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE( q* _& u+ i+ j	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser ) H% E0 \3 d/ a+ t% U
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited * V: n3 L; S4 u" R8 z. C( L	• 1984 Toyota Van DX4 I3 V5 C: x u, o
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE , [. W2 W) E0 G. O5 f# G/ L/ l	• 1984 Toyota Supra " \|8 g, Z/ J) a9 d. Y T( s* Z
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE6 V7 [4 ]+ x2 ^4 F, `	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX ( m* L$ I. _1 E: L
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE- i/ \4 U% y" t1 s( c# K	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 `& f, P) g% x7 s6 V6 Q
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited ; m6 E* c/ E) h V/ O& C	• 1984 Toyota Cressida / z: \|2 L* K" V
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS! c7 X8 F4 P9 Z1 R4 I( w. d	• 1984 Toyota Van ! ]7 q% y- d3 ^) T
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE / b9 b' D P0 U8 [" W	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE* p! o# y$ o4 r
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner + \! E _! F. p6 Y b	• 1984 Toyota Van LE- W) i7 {9 O9 L% Z# `
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE . m& A- E- _1 c- s) J; a/ ^/ G	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE1 a( W( Q0 ^) ~4 _) _
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX& d1 _& [6 ~- \9 k3 a	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 " f6 E t" u: l
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5! \; q6 ? p; }: e3 j$ g0 ?0 L7 H	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX4 \|* T v" W) _" ]/ Y6 e s7 h+ J
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE ) w. n+ _( N Z0 \|- G1 s2 @	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE . Y& S3 B1 o8 q; Q
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE! S; Z% E1 q3 ^	• 1983 Toyota Supra 3 Q' ?6 ` U5 w8 c' \
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma : g. f* O, b* U$ b0 n	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser " I6 _) N5 d, ]( t
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL4 u; h6 D. N: S* }' `	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX , @/ v r- x% B, Q) c, C. ]
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE ' k+ {* U# X6 @: F" ?	• 1983 Toyota Cressida ) B+ ?" {+ Q# P( Q6 g' g
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 5 D$ f5 h" L+ `2 g9 @	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT . l- K: R! {* ^/ c0 u
• 1998 Toyota T-100 $ F8 a; P. c* _! M' s0 ?6 L' \& G	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 m! }, J6 E5 i
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited* H' w7 y! M! G$ p9 S: x) H	• 1982 Toyota Cressida $ h# C1 l2 \|- R1 Y8 Z) v g
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE2 k2 D# H+ i0 x0 Y8 P) E1 B0 @	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX " M0 S$ h a/ e' h4 z
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 ?- H5 O- c3 h3 u	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST3 ?8 N; R' ], D \5 K
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 8 d5 y C9 W( K; o	• 1982 Toyota Tercel 0 j) U' `0 t9 v* A/ z
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX8 w6 C: \* N# @! A3 Z: t	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 & p. _: ], w3 A# `6 K, y+ ]
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma , B7 E' q! O. }9 g! K. x! v+ l	• 1981 Toyota Tercel 6 T1 v$ @ E7 z" q5 }+ r: Y; k, ]
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS4 N3 \|- R7 D9 ~5 w; ?' K	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5& M/ L& f& J& n7 B' @5 o
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX- _" {1 @/ J. Z( A* D9 d$ Q7 j0 S	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser K! v- q, Z7 j% d; G" d6 S* E
• 1997 Toyota T-100 % b H8 F+ e! k* J! \* x	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX" x2 `: N1 U/ Q) g' B
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited # h% ~: q7 w$ y$ i6 S# L# U6 g/ \	• 1981 Toyota Cressida ) S. x" n4 P2 w( q9 s+ u( T
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE 1 B7 p! M5 t: w3 m* K7 a$ T	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT / F* W4 F5 T' R9 z2 u% [
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 " k- t( n5 ^. g( s! T* [3 f1 R	• 1980 Toyota Corolla + i0 E0 y' ^) j
• 1997 Toyota Corolla + P- o1 Q( @; O+ e, ~# e	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser I* Y/ O5 `; W& _- t) ]+ I4 }3 w; R
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR57 o5 U- H J! W" s$ f	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe1 \|9 D: \% z/ d5 \|! _$ j. R% C2 V" C
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL 2 O5 v+ I5 }% D& X* S, N5 I- {( y$ t% h	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX 0 M" q$ S5 W2 o3 K5 u* X
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE* b, N' \9 F V( f* ~" j2 }	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST 7 H* N# G/ S1 v
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner * K. I3 ^6 i/ P7 S- l9 n	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury: G2 Q; r' A* v. W5 x0 g& y
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE4 k' X' L+ L- Z) ]: b" p2 k/ Q0 [	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 6 [& d. r' S8 ?$ \/ m* ^% l
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE ) x& ]3 g8 \6 N. D* B) U	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5% Z$ S5 f. ]* D
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX# o& E8 u0 X# x$ R% E; V	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe! t( o' f, D9 x/ _! _6 y
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE6 C8 R+ r! [2 R' z3 U	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 ! V+ y, J6 @7 e- y& W
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5! o- C9 n4 @2 y5 m" f2 J

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 , N( B4 \. e% K& Y) F5 A" I8 V
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
( Z: T/ u5 J9 oToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
- N0 z9 Y8 N6 Y. p. g• 1997 Toyota Camry CE6 r9 L% C8 S# q8 {* F
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表 ( ?2 c1 W4 {5 ~ S9 W2 Y% ]2 p5 n
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。  t0 \0 V. W: r

* S* H* O3 a6 [+ {& H& ~) A& d' j3 u由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
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  G  z' E) y* S- h; R3 Y/ L& N4 S1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
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让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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