說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
- n9 H2 }4 A& @% _& J# L学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
' ?, p3 ?4 w" g; n! k; J楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

[ 本帖最后由冷眼看世界于 2007-5-30 02:12 编辑 ]

西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 \4 ^2 o% ]8 p6 S: p
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE& Q! w) @( E: [2 Y	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE+ d. p( T" Q9 X: ~+ V3 ^0 M0 O
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport ; l1 v) _8 F' y	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE 8 r1 A! L% i2 C0 i& z+ e
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE 8 }# N: v3 l( f- q# n' a/ s	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX" U3 n% B+ ~! {7 s: H
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR52 f6 g5 W0 G# D: w; i1 E	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR59 z/ \|$ M* Q6 n* P2 C* ~. ]
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE' A B6 ~5 U. a9 t+ s* D	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE% g' R5 x/ n* P: r
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE( F. f' ]$ Y7 O	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX $ x+ b# E% s6 Z
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid 6 w4 V) V5 S. T* u. D: }% e- }	• 1996 Toyota Corolla 4 R8 O) H ^" b; P2 `" ?- \' q7 {+ Q
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited / j* _% A) Q) H* B* E; x' z	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 , ]7 a/ M) }3 D- }7 j
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE- Q3 s1 w6 V1 ?7 C	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE" E) O( Z/ ]/ s& _
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE ' }& j& Z# R$ f) n: v/ X7 j5 X	• 1996 Toyota T-100 6 \|" u P% k' O! ?; p# `7 ]
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE) i; s; j6 O$ H! w# y4 L" b	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST% _/ D& }; w) r/ A5 _
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited! h( j$ _" r( ^+ I- O	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited: j8 b' T! q2 N% c( d, W
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner - y- U# v. ]4 c, D p$ i	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX! ^* b+ E B& O4 M( p. p0 ]
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE( S. c) u5 N; S3 W( d# d! r	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5& N# R w5 V$ M+ R+ [7 W: U) Y
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE ! I& B \|. @8 m3 ]	• 1996 Toyota Tercel # j8 w3 N: l5 d2 b( V
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 & I- s5 Z" ^7 `1 o3 J! B	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX9 T4 c; T/ R( s) a( z7 j2 I
• 2006 Toyota Tundra O( p+ f6 H9 \|7 ]: R( h4 w	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT+ m8 H( s5 \+ [, r
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS ; m! U5 q- s* \4 F	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma 3 x% {8 j% H4 a* Z1 i
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL 0 z0 I4 f! \9 j V4 r	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner & `+ A1 t* z( f/ C! k! k
• 2006 Toyota Prius & u& S9 Q9 p: W9 ?. \|7 q4 W	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX 2 I$ ?# q8 ^$ u; M
• 2006 Toyota Camry , ]( G/ ^3 J7 l& h& R% I% N# U! h	• 1995 Toyota Pickup . R! Q* D% o, H9 f2 n& u
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring" G1 V1 w+ m$ O* t- {	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE5 t, w0 \) g5 @
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma ' X) Q( h- n8 Y	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE2 A+ `- N5 Z5 u$ o4 K
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE 3 b0 C2 k2 j( O+ ~ Y/ a	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton" o) F0 X( m: q; Z9 G+ U7 c
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited. V o" t; f! c/ f	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 6 c* t4 ?8 m' Y, j% G
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner ; \|+ R$ \! Y9 O S v	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5; {) V R: x- G( X, o, L
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 # ~0 m1 ?) o: }! t7 `6 e	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX 3 ~9 Y# T3 i u
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S : G, C$ S9 E! S) p2 K	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX 7 X) Y0 E. I. t
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited ) D7 [# M! Q8 ?7 t	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR59 a/ O! u' r& P, o0 S
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE5 O5 u9 s5 l6 @( _	• 1995 Toyota Tercel " w+ Q$ Y# [! ?8 i8 {+ @ o
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS / G8 e- y" @5 }/ d$ o+ \	• 1995 Toyota Corolla : a" } H0 t @# B$ h, s
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner5 s- z p0 g( w5 X( E	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX7 l7 A' ]" @8 v( a( H
• 2005 Toyota Tundra , u0 j( I0 a7 l# }	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE & P9 G/ I( g( o$ V8 `
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS * r: V; g6 h/ ? ]9 }	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX% d! X! o* y( _ ]+ `
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 . p1 L5 R' \) p( t# B( k, o	• 1995 Toyota T-100 ! Y; F7 x0 ?! v8 H z1 I
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited/ x+ }8 R- e0 d	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 3 E$ u e5 x, t9 q% C5 B$ h
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL! s3 Z! s* P2 }5 w" V	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE0 d" d0 t( z' W0 g
• 2005 Toyota Camry + S2 v# D' k; u- Y# D& s, m	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5' F L {1 d$ n, b) _' E. S
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring , r% F. g- N+ ]% e. J	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX' k9 @ v: I7 P0 ~( Q, t
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE / ^- E- _, B5 }3 v3 o2 M" i, j	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX9 X; O) T. ]$ \|9 M" z
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE# i/ F- Q% F* V/ l- G* b2 j2 r" j+ w	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX7 u5 X% K4 o/ G: e% R
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited5 \|: R: I1 f5 ^+ i7 Z7 ?" S	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5: z" P- c5 y! l/ X* J( k5 q
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma ) f, J7 G* K8 U4 y	• 1994 Toyota Pickup ' ~2 N1 ^3 {' ]+ r
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S& {) P0 {$ q/ C. w6 j5 A. A: j	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE! \|9 [9 A4 v; R( Z; [5 \|
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE# x2 o/ J0 Z7 q' @3 k- }. N! S	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE. l5 c; e6 A3 s. _
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited6 m; k% ]4 c6 n. C5 ]0 ~3 R, U	• 1994 Toyota T-100 " Q+ o7 M$ M' n
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5* o6 ^ [. }: U3 C	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 # i! _+ L' w( n6 x2 ^ k5 x" H4 _
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE # }) Q( T5 Q9 x7 j6 B& Q/ ?' D	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE* V/ u/ ^/ D4 [1 R7 e* O1 B' ~& @& ]4 j
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 5 \- }. V0 n' V- G E5 ?	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX & n; \|) \, L1 p; R* f' L: q
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS l2 q2 f. A: d: l6 C0 F$ d0 v# X	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 1 l7 o. E" {" ~
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE$ E* n0 q% J n	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE! [' V5 ?7 }0 k, N R
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE; a2 E) u4 `) v- l& D	• 1994 Toyota Corolla " `+ r s/ U6 Z0 F$ @. `0 a( n: B
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited * m' L: w4 A: K$ Y	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton/ _0 I' e" Q. I1 G. ~/ c* B/ F
• 2005 Toyota Highlander 8 F i+ a" V. {+ j1 I# R: l	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE 8 l3 ^) D/ `/ A! k2 I
• 2005 Toyota Prius : w8 c8 i6 C* k. X1 i	• 1993 Toyota Corolla . i8 T3 \8 M- O* l' r( W& k) Y" b
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE" l( E, ]4 \# O4 N% x	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton + }% y' \+ X) [2 c
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE 3 k# T3 P, J, I d	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 K* n+ T/ \|# _% x9 k Z5 r
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited ' ^7 }5 n* H' L6 b8 ]	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX * t+ M/ t* C6 z2 Y( H
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 9 k6 n. f' ^$ m# c( w Y	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX4 s' q9 `0 p- Q
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE . ^! P; S8 ~0 n; G& r	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX # ^. A- v+ }' b* a0 k/ _4 c
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE * t* d4 c B. d	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser , B/ B$ P, f, {+ ?
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE- E# a$ ?$ s% O; t	• 1993 Toyota T-100 * M- r2 ^& E: @; {8 k; \|5 l1 ^7 C* R0 \|
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE # R& \) c+ `3 t4 ~" {	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE ) T9 `. B6 ]# m% \|3 ~
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited* P( \- \|1 t' d( g9 V- f' ?: c	• 1993 Toyota Pickup & x H' N$ h* L$ N/ m$ K
• 2004 Toyota Prius & j' Y) H7 q- t+ L	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE9 p9 G* P; J* k; D
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma ; M- }: T+ l9 ?, p. _	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE , W% h: c( ]0 g+ `3 K c( d
• 2004 Toyota Tundra 0 R0 U4 i" R2 f* U3 _6 q q0 g, F	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 ; [. w, i+ m x" V, c( T# o
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE 9 _7 t L3 E" [8 @# q' \ A0 q4 m	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 $ v9 A" i- @5 P6 b, N1 G3 }
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited5 ^$ j7 [5 I* a o% K( \|$ H6 F9 H	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE. W3 v& Q, s* U
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited Z8 `9 V+ w0 G& C9 {7 M! y/ X- N	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE& \|+ P0 A u5 x. N' ~) h
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE 5 x/ y$ z0 l$ Q$ F9 {; z% I+ n	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 X/ K5 h/ y9 T! ~+ d' M
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE0 q- T7 A( L R0 R V) g	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE : y7 Z5 S4 {7 o, E
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE" R& L9 e. e) H. W	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac , F3 t/ w3 n6 q: M# d* x8 V
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited 6 M w. I+ r" ]5 Z1 B& Z; x	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton! O7 V* l+ U9 Q; a) s
• 2004 Toyota Highlander ; P$ A, }$ U5 f, M' M8 i# g- @/ Q	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE - [& T0 d8 a* ~9 _3 G- M" R
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner7 r4 }' ~8 J* P8 J @7 b) Y+ d	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 1 p1 v' r& M6 w5 O8 X c
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S% U; h$ [; M- o" I$ V0 n	• 1992 Toyota MR2 8 h- ]- H, z; M- F [( [ H& ?$ M1 e
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner # M% ]$ \|/ v' v% B- l+ ~) c	• 1992 Toyota Pickup " M, X9 ^' i$ [6 h2 ?
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 & e; x+ w% ] t+ Q; o7 a	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX 3 j7 s6 e* p: P% c4 M4 C" g
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS" Y; Y V* I1 V. s	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac3 Z; H9 R" {4 k7 j- l
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner2 w7 Q, ~/ k3 @) l P- m% B! E	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5* x' Q1 q7 K3 C: y
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S # f \9 T$ P* g% G	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX 7 H' W* a' n1 R. p
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited ' R) p0 k! y5 v% q! D! P1 Q: c; f1 \|	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 8 f0 q1 l5 k' j5 V% }
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 0 I3 d" e& N6 E8 M. S6 @3 [* t	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser ; U) z! d: d( M) x6 k- i
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 8 }2 Y% R3 x$ M" w. }; c9 f	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof' F, s( V, X2 d3 o$ ]3 `
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited& d5 d W# W/ k5 w0 F% B5 h+ z	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE! p' Y( l* O: a% s
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE : D( g$ N1 N4 Q5 \. q' u9 o	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR53 l5 U* d$ Z5 J! X
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT " p6 e+ n) M) K7 b$ g# _/ U	• 1991 Toyota Camry 5 t3 q1 g a; D
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE) ?0 w* k, _0 U4 b	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser % k: J" P1 {8 }& \|
• 2003 Toyota Highlander $ g* V5 {1 [/ N$ M0 R! g9 e	• 1991 Toyota Pickup % n1 p3 c' ^# q7 J
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma ( L2 X/ \|5 ^% w Y; ?8 F	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX ) T# V. R: p0 k. M+ ]
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 4 ~8 s, g5 p$ M k7 z7 M3 \|	• 1991 Toyota MR2 * l- J# D# M, V
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE% s$ d/ [2 w9 r+ b# M% I	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR50 F3 m. \|1 R9 E3 o4 J
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited% b i- P6 Q9 w4 z/ W' T	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX; k7 g' H* A( ~8 n& T p; y) f
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE5 z! ]- P( x4 a' u. t+ f- I- _+ }	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac $ C! C4 k* P5 q6 K4 ?( n0 `5 C7 E
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 V! U5 i6 d: ~0 A( ]8 H	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 0 } ^9 U: r3 J
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE % Y9 l8 O6 w) m: G4 S! z8 ~0 u/ _) ^	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof. `2 c6 `5 C$ c
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE6 l8 s9 J/ ^* H6 p2 P1 H) U	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 7 o! l8 k: Y b
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited: ^+ J; Q1 G' H+ o! {8 q2 N2 u	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE $ ?6 h/ n7 E! f0 C
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited% `9 h* I' {! p5 X	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton : V# u7 L- A1 @$ Q
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited; u2 ~( Q9 b$ A& B0 A: Y	• 1990 Toyota Pickup 8 c1 Q9 e5 T$ W3 Q3 ~: N: D5 x
• 2002 Toyota ECHO ; X2 f+ l6 n6 l+ b	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE7 k N5 z& D* A7 ^- y
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE5 E) {3 q) J' K0 P2 O3 s- @	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5( @* F7 w% r* X3 T5 C# n
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited 5 I$ Z7 {( Q+ f. ~' I	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ " W, \|2 _1 A. p$ j/ G$ h& c
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE! t0 E+ s: J: F/ [. B7 V& J! K8 r	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT, z& _: K- T7 C# b+ u
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT 5 e0 k. \|7 d0 [	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base ( k) D4 n% w" m; B9 B' @
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner + O% U" m9 P ^! ]5 L- s4 l- J	• 1990 Toyota Camry 7 [. z$ Y+ S( k5 A c( l0 M7 e
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S) z1 m4 g- Z, A: b* t2 j+ g	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST + }) u \|% `; P \' j9 [, V3 f6 J
• 2002 Toyota Highlander ! L3 S" J7 h# `" j$ {9 y- e	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX / { W2 K* ]6 U
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner- v# d/ u! Q0 N6 X9 U) l" j- b% V	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX) ]2 C1 }1 [3 T1 C4 L9 `
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR53 \|! Q) u7 o+ [	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 1 I; U8 \8 \- C$ {; V' z4 D' j" P
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 + E8 W' e6 S$ ~4 M" G9 s7 s# S	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS. g! g/ }. x% L k
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE , V! a& F$ G% i2 o6 x6 z, ?, `	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser # H; H7 c; y2 p! h+ w: U- y
• 2002 Toyota Prius 0 U5 t$ `& a L; ~- a	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton5 \1 Q/ B, Z3 k( J6 l
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 $ i1 E, m: f1 E3 R4 B1 y	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX 4 I7 ]- Z$ k) }( Y; j
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS $ A" \|( @6 J( B/ F2 p) ~ j1 ^- S	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac6 A) w2 ^% }+ A: @8 Z5 @
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE. \ i; g# G6 v	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac $ C0 Q8 e' C" a3 d/ L
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma / ]# g! m' D) m0 g$ J7 }	• 1990 Toyota Tercel , M( h- ^& E {3 H' F
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 4 S: l ]1 O' ^+ j* K! b	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac- ` _) E+ C4 `7 }: }
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE ) u) O- W; l- Q) p8 U	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 9 e0 \|$ d1 ]2 J( T- U! u/ r
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE/ q2 J1 F q, G2 ~% S" v	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger ) L }0 ]: ]6 Q) T
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL 7 x7 s. G5 E1 N7 w) ?6 S" o	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base) _1 s* u6 p$ B. J6 e. P- Z, F
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited g$ \3 f* O# s9 ~% p2 H" x$ X	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac# Y' S! L. A8 r; H
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT2 A5 X" D7 Q) g' p	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 L0 ]& W9 h/ U1 M0 \|7 R
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE$ l" w ^1 V+ v, M6 B	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE, \" x; q" Z9 K- J
• 2001 Toyota Prius - _5 P9 p* g. R) t9 ]' S# y	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX3 _9 ~7 o- z; Q. s* Y
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma . s; ] h# [% c2 t	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton " F! F; v: n! L; q @0 F6 f/ X
• 2001 Toyota Tundra 3 b5 d# p0 Z- s( g9 R	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger0 q7 ?* L) C+ V. G
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE: D/ H6 F& e5 W8 r/ R	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX ( n1 c/ T [6 h6 I' X
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited" Y" v1 `; U8 N j' ~# V9 C	• 1989 Toyota Camry % x7 n, r! ?) ^9 e! [
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 . a$ {( q$ I9 ?3 S8 y1 L( ^$ @	• 1989 Toyota Tercel 8 h; }( @8 v: T+ D
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE 9 J9 y% g7 F6 x; }- Z! c7 @	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX5 k9 {9 a% e: m* o D7 e' f
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE + x D2 f: I+ ^	• 1989 Toyota Pickup 7 M2 D M( x3 S& o% x; m' c6 d
• 2001 Toyota ECHO	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5- V6 n5 T M3 T: ?/ D
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS ) D1 P2 P/ r0 {. b	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger ! A# @2 f/ L- o, C
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE ' J7 B9 Z9 e+ f: M V) F/ x! p	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ6 S `- y& d9 O7 ?$ v$ n+ H
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5& r. a! \|0 Z: y# \& r6 R9 h	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel ' R2 K) }* L! z0 U @0 m5 d
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner. M! X- ^ F: ^, T4 E- Y	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX " W4 n6 {( I5 R* k) n8 t# {
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS6 M# h u# S9 d: v8 M' ~+ \|	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ" \* Y( i; z2 \$ b B7 w+ C/ c
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S, C1 p' q8 M: p/ ~" [	• 1988 Toyota Camry 9 O9 j* Y. P9 C) W: d; a2 C8 t+ R5 f
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner# U( B' ]6 z [, [0 ?0 \	• 1988 Toyota Pickup ! [' r1 k9 g5 K- N" \* L0 a
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 % z7 M8 h7 ~3 T	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger 0 S \|$ l1 J" w. p0 w
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE 7 ^2 ]9 v% I/ k x, j	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX ' o: x4 f* \|; Y& G3 Z* p
• 2001 Toyota Highlander 8 X3 ]3 Z9 ]+ n8 G, m. ?7 t+ G	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac8 f+ t5 Q) \4 a J
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited; ~6 j- C6 P) s	• 1988 Toyota Van DX% ^+ y4 {1 z4 B$ ~: Z- b
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 5 l) W0 c& b7 f	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger 4 L! Y# w: @+ Z
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma 2 @ p9 {; n: @; }" Z& n. k8 M	• 1988 Toyota Tercel # A f1 j! L; r* B' p) ?
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT 3 T7 v, V6 `' \	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE 1 O5 M) J' I7 [4 B: x" `! d0 ]
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE; G+ K4 w E2 x" O) H6 e) i	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window + \|. }- B3 E( ~5 j1 f# u
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 1 S$ ]5 Z( m# W Q% d9 ^5 ]0 D2 r	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton0 Y1 P9 n3 X( e8 b3 ?' `
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner. d( a* n. R' Y$ x) d# J	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 v! k5 m; ^: T g" `
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 ! y3 S8 [/ J$ b" c* G5 m3 i	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5! q! h- j. ~& n5 ^- w! p( R
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited+ L# @) m- O- @+ @	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger ; V8 T$ f, y1 p# h$ g
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE " T# f% o+ I! C8 {2 z9 d3 @	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B5 B2 Q8 W3 H5 G9 q6 P/ y
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS $ i- n: z, D5 ?$ x9 }	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 9 T/ r( S$ H5 V& f- K, R9 Q- Q
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE$ B1 C8 c2 x: r( g% b	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger: \! [/ K3 h0 l) U2 ~7 H6 A# t( F
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara ' O) f! K9 Q+ ^: S- M	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR52 j* J' q7 _- g# a& b+ u7 e
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited) G1 ?+ o( }. L) f, j8 a	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX& P; v# `3 [7 A6 E& z4 q+ J
• 2000 Toyota Tundra ( l" @) J+ e6 @. s8 p	• 1988 Toyota Van LE x- K; v4 a* I7 [
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS" R; [, A7 p3 o	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 G: ~6 A+ S/ `& X3 I3 I+ x
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE - L+ `1 h* J# k) S% ^6 m	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5$ t, ?* W# y3 H% _' q! s$ z% p
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited4 \1 U) Q: x" p6 j& ~* ]	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE, U5 E9 G0 k) m) g
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner $ {. P1 Z8 M& \|8 D	• 1987 Toyota Van DX( }9 C A2 N# _, f
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE _5 V& _4 d% m	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window ) u. x% R/ B1 a) _* s; ]) s
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 / r# f; F( `$ u+ U: k1 U o	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton& J( ?* b6 `& n6 M# i/ C( t5 d
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE ! X; i2 I$ {, C3 v9 K) O	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 7 c( \|4 V9 w) l8 \|* [
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL) c" Y5 t) S3 s) o9 [* D	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX 6 P$ k7 v( I( a7 E
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 0 G3 I2 C- m7 P	• 1987 Toyota Tercel ! Y4 o( u$ F, U' h
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE4 d2 f7 w2 m/ V7 d0 S6 o3 C) d. g	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX ( W. ?: m, e1 r* Q" r+ I4 k
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5 n+ i0 B3 W2 \; Z0 ^. m. \|	• 1987 Toyota Van LE) o+ G$ F9 B9 K5 W
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE 5 E, F- O/ _& b$ p5 h	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel 2 J& }) M- K+ {
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE : @5 l! Q- O. `6 [! m	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX. X4 x) e; w1 ?$ r* { O
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma , l9 Q7 F! k9 a	• 1987 Toyota Pickup , @* W e% w; D. y. J' L3 B5 u
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS % S' v3 A% _ E6 W, g& {( \	• 1986 Toyota Van LE- o4 V" T/ L9 `+ m# N0 M4 n
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE4 O/ c t, h2 S	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 2 B/ P+ l! A; K$ G
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner9 g# K5 M6 G$ P+ _1 `* C5 c	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel ! E, Z' ^7 C4 B9 P/ n0 c8 o. h
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 0 S: p7 m$ D0 c# o) ?0 r6 Q	• 1986 Toyota Van DX $ ]1 U/ u) Q; {# o9 ?7 B2 c
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited2 e5 C0 o) ]9 g+ T" [4 @% M4 V	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window ' i; _$ j* p2 h7 f0 q/ u: p; C
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE ]3 H4 ]& D6 x. Z2 l1 ^9 h	• 1985 Toyota Van 1 v& G5 B3 U7 C+ H C2 i
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE ' n* P/ ~; K, B( m# r	• 1985 Toyota Van LE . l9 U; J6 ~0 T `! d a, `
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL ; ^+ e7 A$ M) U0 P$ z( A+ @	• 1985 Toyota Van DX 5 j0 Y) D9 A# K R! F8 `& L' u
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE + F U( J1 L% w7 R: x	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser g( v; X! W% q
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited5 b5 \8 N9 S0 Q% X' k* h. m	• 1984 Toyota Van DX) I+ q% R4 ?+ F& W! b0 x# }
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE; N# ]; P _+ b; B" v; o5 I	• 1984 Toyota Supra % O5 Z5 s6 I0 t
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE) ^4 ~! u2 H- @3 n5 z	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX: b ~5 f' o% U, V3 G. Y
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE 5 O; v1 w7 @) a% f8 U	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser ' C' ~. ~3 y/ O* }- N# R7 ^, r
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited - X8 ^5 D/ G, B" V+ y' z4 e	• 1984 Toyota Cressida 7 h$ I# J) v1 h# `8 n/ Y$ {0 F
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS $ d0 u+ M( [8 J- c	• 1984 Toyota Van q t: M' s6 z& g; \6 V; m- v
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE4 r3 `: p% \|. K j; ?9 \|2 \	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE% r1 \, n6 M9 }
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner * E: c* `- o, `- {- h/ {	• 1984 Toyota Van LE8 [1 e. Q8 z3 z. s
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE - u6 q) S1 l I$ a3 n9 y7 ?5 m	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE 6 f! j! \0 \|- @
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX, \3 C# @* H/ A& \|/ }8 u	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR50 e& B3 Q% g9 w* F3 X
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR54 c }3 a& Y r1 K! m) b( W	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX) R" V+ v/ c: A+ x! @) Q6 M6 a
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE 7 h- f. }6 P0 O! e4 F3 [3 g; I% R	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE0 [3 i% O3 `7 F" L' \|
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE k6 ]+ B& y* N) B- y2 v; M# s	• 1983 Toyota Supra 8 M0 c2 S g- Z0 h; T$ L
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma 8 `& X; u$ ~. v g+ L# _	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser . S# p' y7 k _1 C6 }7 l2 N7 B
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL 0 N" H6 E9 I! E- T	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX3 }3 n/ o8 x' z& k" d
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE; p6 n1 @0 S$ O	• 1983 Toyota Cressida . Y) f0 S$ s- i4 K: J! S
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ! S6 F# P% v4 _8 `( e	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT : x4 D$ L/ X1 U" [6 M4 `
• 1998 Toyota T-100 " T) P& G6 l( d2 b7 Y	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser & p* d7 W4 I$ U% \$ l w" y
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited" z# \|- w1 R# e( S! k	• 1982 Toyota Cressida ) i, P2 P3 N* h' _8 U( o
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE3 V5 }: e6 o' e# \2 E1 V	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX * p8 \|6 Y1 n) B% v6 D1 q/ D
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 ; G& Y3 `8 U1 f5 e! }1 c& F, w	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST/ c, O f2 V* ]
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5' L2 U8 V8 @/ h% D/ S# G	• 1982 Toyota Tercel 1 B* ~ l3 C" s2 r& {7 W
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX 7 o* y( z0 R: _6 ?; B	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 * C# Q- N- F' t( U
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma % ?% n/ A# a8 C; Y) e	• 1981 Toyota Tercel 9 ]8 T' m! O" x2 @; n& r1 p& b
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS( Q* z+ g; M" k	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 # j: ]" G l7 A' V0 E. M
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX , F0 \; c# L0 Z	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser ' j% ~; w# H5 f) e
• 1997 Toyota T-100 / f! `- `+ V: v$ s: z	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX , l5 \ b9 Q. h. d9 e% E; ]
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited * u/ k, [1 S: T* T9 D5 _	• 1981 Toyota Cressida 9 Q* k; \, H- c' E- `
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE 6 m' }$ ]+ S7 p1 A4 Y& z	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT2 T) t* b2 i( U8 c
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR56 x1 l+ \& s' h8 F2 B	• 1980 Toyota Corolla $ N0 h5 _3 [0 ?' {5 n) e# q: _
• 1997 Toyota Corolla ) d1 b+ \+ F( V: R! U	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser " o! J! U q9 y
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5+ A, J5 A4 F5 J% \/ D	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe+ `4 c' ?. q; a' \|/ q
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL' K* c" G D; m# _	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX! j1 x% D0 K, i2 @$ z
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE ' a* \|+ i4 [) C	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST2 J1 }8 R( s/ H( y9 Q; A
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner 8 Q- y5 g3 k3 m1 D4 h	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury U1 ? S8 i3 b& d# E8 x7 G3 J
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE' T3 J& z* K& ?5 b9 h	• 1980 Toyota Tercel $ U4 E" f% V: g
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE( I7 \|8 ?, b3 \6 s" L% z, I7 V; M	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR50 i+ ?: r) p# }9 W& h; o+ `# p
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX# ^9 {- O" Q* k8 F	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe ( X) x, s( E' `; b F8 l% K$ V
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE ; N1 D C; U& Z) h	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 0 P, C$ x* V! ]; y
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ( O+ ?2 p' c4 b1 a7 ?# p

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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@ I; [/ P o2 N+ u如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
: ?: C% ?1 \1 c6 S' h* jToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
7 e& D' p6 ^- ^• 1997 Toyota Camry CE( d) U- u' [+ b: l5 e" q' ^, X
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表 ( Q3 H% G8 i: K$ }' C" T Q
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。( j6 N% Z. D* B$ n# u
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由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
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1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；1 q/ ^/ V7 z" [3 Z ^4 {* B
2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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