說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
5 x1 z `7 O( e6 G3 H学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
% x* M+ }4 Z' W& O+ F楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 2 J- X! `* t! V* G
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表 ( i4 O8 u7 i+ \) }
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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE " O- f! D. ]( V: H	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE 3 F+ x5 J* ?+ L- X5 b3 B) s
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport ' j5 k. p. O, X6 ?# R	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE $ A7 J0 c1 z9 X5 {/ ^, q+ H
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE 2 `0 Z$ U/ R2 K	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX 8 d* b/ x, A8 v- \|1 c; A8 J. M
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 6 K6 ]. O. i% L. B6 b	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR53 e& y, i$ I7 P u; R$ ?
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE , ^, I8 x7 r( e, Y' b	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE ; @. r; e/ k" e! n7 ^
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE 4 C7 K: f( s7 e# X1 @' T0 }1 ]	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX ! v( Q( O3 R( K9 ]2 l+ b
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid * r D2 S, U1 x	• 1996 Toyota Corolla 5 c' h3 E2 t& ?6 J z1 S
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited$ e- A0 J! f* k	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 : G1 i% k- o& Q; _# Z& p
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE % N* v" f$ J3 n$ W# T$ b* u: r	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE1 h( j Q! y: r- t+ I
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE 0 {1 K( E! E; B0 U* R& Q	• 1996 Toyota T-100 / s8 c7 \2 V; `$ M5 Z% z \|) Y+ y
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE' i" R5 i$ M' d	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST( \" u9 R5 x- R
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited 1 A! {" \|8 \|4 K	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited * C+ R$ D4 \. ?8 t
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner " h! {8 n9 f0 l	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX % A; A& x9 S2 \|, r5 [. e- A; d
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE, t+ _5 n3 ^% X& l% ?9 N! \|	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 , [$ \: A: Q0 K2 [( {
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE % i8 m5 m! j) U! ~; `; B; a. ?	• 1996 Toyota Tercel & r0 E' \|/ b; F* \9 ^4 G+ t+ I
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 - q6 Q" z3 c# d$ n* ]7 d	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX 2 e0 K/ Z% c# S# A' u
• 2006 Toyota Tundra * i0 p \% I8 R$ @. B: ]! S5 S	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT & g& n0 v" @& J+ u, k
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS" u5 B* o( \5 I. {; ]; J2 m	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma 6 ?# I7 L2 H; X9 j, {0 B+ ?, I! ^! F
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL5 d6 e5 t" r% C7 m8 B	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner : A! j2 k5 d3 `# \( h
• 2006 Toyota Prius 0 w% J9 U+ y+ x, C	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX 9 Y7 C8 m0 W: k# H2 y# g4 A, y
• 2006 Toyota Camry : S7 k! w8 V& R2 U	• 1995 Toyota Pickup ( x5 V1 v6 ?* M1 w9 v6 f3 u
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring 8 h& I8 o9 o3 Q/ L	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE: E- w: { E+ [/ o3 K
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma , [$ p7 ?) C4 w# r0 J3 j; _6 }	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE 0 u z2 S- E" `- h6 s6 Z. G2 W: M
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE : e5 _, ~+ C! V Z1 h5 s) q" S0 \|	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton! ^' a3 E4 c: ]3 Q
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited 2 \|' M$ K" j. s7 x+ k% s0 Z	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 5 C: O. H: t+ [3 d) M! l) q8 }
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner6 O% G& B, ~/ @/ }	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 5 I m) X' e) Q+ q7 w/ [0 y: S p
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5$ e) P/ r& p9 m2 i) ?+ K	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX - x: M1 F3 c, D
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S ! m y7 Z1 K: H	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX$ p) u" x/ P0 y5 T E- k# z
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited + _$ Q! H: c. \|) `) e. Y& V! U	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 3 V" Q9 i. k6 z R* C
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE! b! ]& @' D% b) s+ j0 U	• 1995 Toyota Tercel - V) _: w' m4 P# {9 Q9 \
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS H: h- q( {! P% `: O+ t	• 1995 Toyota Corolla # C$ u* A% J. M& w$ {4 c
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner. F; i( j' F" M! V' X	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX0 y' E' r4 B8 y! a" {) q' }4 s u
• 2005 Toyota Tundra ' B$ @- B- g, Y* a% y; Q	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE, n! j+ r8 K1 T6 U) u% u
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS * \/ ~$ ^0 w% S5 n) p	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX # a3 c3 L! Y3 \|, m, W
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 + R. O8 N9 ^2 L. C) V, c	• 1995 Toyota T-100 - B, y" S. { b, [1 m1 v8 Y
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited $ y5 k% W; l3 F- }: f! h	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma . V) K: W! l& I B4 t# o( _
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL8 M( C" E9 D# A# u	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE ' q0 c* {) ^" G( c0 } w$ ~+ [
• 2005 Toyota Camry 5 `5 V' O. m& T0 Y9 X0 [- [( z. p5 Y	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR51 q9 R [' T& J! c
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring& F, k" S4 H5 i1 _	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX1 b# y+ P* {( o. {7 j+ H' q5 N
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE; D' A, L2 Y1 Y2 ` u4 s	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX 2 ^3 w; O8 R1 Y! Y% y, V# k) R( A
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE# K& T. b: \|/ W) z* M: K% q	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX ( s+ n. t* N+ `5 }/ w5 z5 m- T
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited / K. C4 K. o. ~5 S1 _ q! K `* p	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5$ p1 [, } u9 J! F
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma 5 B6 o" E* V9 j8 R5 I: a z	• 1994 Toyota Pickup / O; q8 e& x# ~
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S Y5 I d$ H/ M# B" e1 G5 R, M	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE $ P' Y& S/ g: a
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE / Z+ S; n2 z- \/ _	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE$ s' f* g( p' Q5 M) s9 a7 E
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited5 Y0 s9 e8 q F	• 1994 Toyota T-100 / \, X; \/ s2 \ O% v: G
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5, A( }, a. R: o# m& ^' K; V	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 : s; C0 `4 J' ^* H
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE0 i: J$ w8 Q# J" q2 U3 ]	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE 1 l( ?& [5 Y; v/ T( N# I3 i, q
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 2 m, m0 L% E9 j2 }9 `	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX - G+ y% b' }" D+ V1 p' u% \ i
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS 4 h4 P3 N: K+ q3 B# w/ w	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5/ \|( v3 s2 i6 ~* H% W+ v6 q
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE4 ~' O) ?) \: g+ Z" `. u: }	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE/ W& D* i' F+ E- l8 }; R
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE! u1 d2 i' g# d) a	• 1994 Toyota Corolla 6 d5 R" b' Q5 D: @; i2 h# i
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited 3 s' s6 [/ m$ g	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton, k% x. x; E* d3 S7 X# l: c
• 2005 Toyota Highlander 1 `( \ W* T* M	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE/ C/ Z: ~$ d2 [% a$ ~
• 2005 Toyota Prius 4 j% W3 {7 J5 B$ u( N	• 1993 Toyota Corolla . P9 e; ?! k5 \|* \. L+ `
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE ' W5 K" R9 V' s% b	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton, b7 Y" k: U# X, _
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE3 ^$ P! C$ R6 `8 b; n/ x7 ?1 F	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ; {. N2 s8 i( L M- ~- m
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited , R/ S3 N+ u: l	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX; v+ \4 Q1 b* i4 w9 F: w5 F
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 0 T* y) a- y& p" W/ d	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX: N# h# L$ n W( u& N
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE ) B( z9 \" B7 A) W	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX3 j' @- h# x/ \0 W: b4 T7 f
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE; R! B$ A4 B' C	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 V( ~ i% N( G$ ^7 r& O! k
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE/ j1 m3 n% A* X d' [" I	• 1993 Toyota T-100 $ t9 H5 p' B z* c! W- O" N) z
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE5 g* \0 f( ~1 s. H- y2 ~	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE; u2 X+ j" U: U% c7 B- f
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited 8 H% O4 {" \4 I9 q7 f i Y	• 1993 Toyota Pickup % s n) `8 Y2 F+ e
• 2004 Toyota Prius ! k7 f' U4 V7 ~) `	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE p! ]% o5 X( \|' X' J' L- f+ n2 y
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma 3 U6 `8 Z _, l' n: W1 \|7 L	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE ! ]- A3 m6 H$ v! P
• 2004 Toyota Tundra 3 K7 U% M& W2 ^3 M$ h4 x	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR54 H5 {1 w' ] g6 ~5 z7 B
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE6 f4 P: Y% Y8 `9 v7 m, r	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR58 y$ Q. `% i4 y% s/ \|& l9 N6 ^
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited& n/ s9 X. Z) a Z0 d+ v9 D	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE' s# S9 q0 {( L" ~
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited " V$ x& Q% h! Y3 _5 ^ Z7 W o	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE, y- g' ?$ W! K
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE4 ]( X# f4 r" M* v6 p	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX $ P5 q& t4 }$ X* [4 P' \|! `0 b8 t/ v0 e
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE 6 f& U- w5 S4 m. [	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE( ^# ]) ~1 h" j# [+ C' d3 ^: y
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE( l* x' e5 z2 ?$ `	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited ) p! N8 E/ m( h	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 9 V+ X" v. q" i1 ?- k( }, `
• 2004 Toyota Highlander $ u; ^6 m( ]0 Y+ E# M	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE / [/ j& o" y( B' z
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner, S$ I; _2 D) U$ O	• 1992 Toyota Corolla $ s3 B( a% ^. [- a
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S5 k9 `5 `! G$ G	• 1992 Toyota MR2 $ k6 z) r" k5 ?; \
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 6 T4 \|9 \# U u+ M- i2 m- l' U	• 1992 Toyota Pickup 1 }6 X" D8 N& R' X5 `5 ~- }
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 9 _. f$ E( }, E: S	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX - A- \4 h P) `& l
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS " x/ l5 R. p) p' f	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac 1 [; t8 W! l/ V2 _3 i
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner/ X0 O. W7 Q7 F- b+ w3 _8 s	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5# h( O6 h# u% L: V/ ^6 C3 [& c: k
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S8 M2 x9 @& e/ {: }, p P W3 f	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX) \. y2 ?* Z6 w, A
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited2 t$ c2 r# l6 G+ X' t) d	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5' {" H l$ a! O3 ~$ ~
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner( c; O7 `# C2 i( x% n	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser % F5 E6 s" j8 k5 n5 I+ U7 \|
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5) S8 P6 M- ^7 p# n' }2 K	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof& x0 H' Z5 n' `8 s5 B7 L1 H1 p
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited + y: n$ v6 x" O; C	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE! q: W) k v: E2 g' U+ y/ f( y
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE ; z, `1 P* v5 c/ N7 G# C! M" \|	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 - Y8 f, A8 k a v; O% o) Z
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT$ q" \2 u) J; Q0 S	• 1991 Toyota Camry " Z) r. o$ A& r7 Y& J1 q. O. d
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE& V: E! T# q9 z+ z- y5 }	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser $ p" p1 y/ i6 M$ s, [; x3 A k- _
• 2003 Toyota Highlander , d, ^: m( \|- J, M x, \' X9 C	• 1991 Toyota Pickup ! l5 \|; `- t$ j% C9 `2 W, @: s
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma ; A2 T' j8 C/ L3 o& _% M/ Z/ @	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX 4 U+ G2 U9 r, w% f& I
• 2003 Toyota Tundra C& N/ A! s' n7 w6 v% s3 d1 c	• 1991 Toyota MR2 8 E: G+ e( C `
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE2 O- A# O% m, }8 d0 \| j! {	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5% L1 {/ V1 n- K2 ~! R/ M
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited 1 d( S6 F! @% z8 B& @	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX+ H+ V5 E& Z( O$ E- o
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE 5 O, J1 k) c1 j$ o( T. v	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac' I: X1 K: X+ K& U* Z% {2 d
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 / }/ X8 `) w$ F/ Q6 j: u/ I	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac V+ U n1 E8 d- h% K- ~; r
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE ( s8 \' N2 \|" o' ?( G: v9 ]0 U: ?# A- t	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof' `, C( X/ U' N& z4 s% j
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE 9 h- j: Q7 \|* @2 m	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 3 L( G" y* C* D7 {
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited 6 \. p4 @9 q: P) R	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE: R9 l7 u3 i' m4 @9 e7 \|7 h9 R
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited 6 r1 C+ J7 D# r1 m5 L	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton . f3 W7 b" u) O/ M1 Q% C
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited . I; ], f/ f- z	• 1990 Toyota Pickup 9 v, C0 H9 q* [' x0 m
• 2002 Toyota ECHO % b8 P3 M V+ Z4 z0 w8 R# p	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE# H" \) i" U/ m5 O! s, `
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE 2 P; ]. j1 b* ^2 e. Q1 D	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 6 n1 n2 G4 A, _9 y$ P3 c6 N
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited 5 o* w \|/ W% F4 F	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ" Q/ U& H+ \; c- F. `
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE+ M2 T; ?0 P( A$ o	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT1 m: }6 ?; f0 J9 C6 [
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT5 z3 O6 `/ R. y7 f! I8 Y- M6 n	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base" v f$ {3 ]3 i+ ]. W' g- A5 R
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner2 r) }# R3 D8 n1 u9 c	• 1990 Toyota Camry 3 A* _1 I0 }% l4 N1 \
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S+ I. K3 t% o9 j1 \0 j: W, ?	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST# w& p0 \|" D; F
• 2002 Toyota Highlander 8 B* p6 G. K% n( B& ]1 ^/ l7 Z	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX, B) q5 n+ ^3 U7 c1 q
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner6 `) i3 f" y0 p1 r1 j$ o9 q8 m	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX% Q5 X; P$ ^% i- l: n2 L; q
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 % z" ~8 Y7 t: \; H. A. K {	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 : f( D/ A7 m' g' H9 k3 W4 ?
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 6 Y3 N$ [2 W( j* K	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS 3 `/ _3 [, u6 c2 }6 P( r
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE . h# d% C$ r% P5 A& B+ m9 \|	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser + s& k% n" K3 I, ]; u! Q r
• 2002 Toyota Prius 6 [. {$ s, k, q: R6 ^	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton ( {* M1 ^' W/ m" [
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 7 N) o9 N# z3 i' X O: \|0 G$ ^	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX& \|7 k4 f2 t8 X9 G" K5 }8 Q4 {3 O
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS 0 v3 B2 x! r" G$ B	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac* I# t( d9 ?0 _3 X$ N, ?+ N8 U2 @
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE/ J( O' k6 `$ Z3 _9 E	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac% j9 g v6 Q$ B+ ^9 T" N* S1 r
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3 E7 t9 F/ q4 a! o2 d: w- u0 O* \|( e	• 1990 Toyota Tercel , a8 i: M4 e9 f
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 7 ~8 f! {' v9 g/ u	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 5 _. ^3 @) D; h
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE ( m/ {! n( f9 H& R6 F8 N4 G' ]0 M	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac( O" r b; U. w5 s3 G- O1 J
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE " O \|+ D* n4 ]9 i+ m3 x	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger2 I9 E- r" B5 Z% N
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL$ B; @. f d: [ n	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base 2 z0 s8 f. Q; b! x
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited $ E. a& \|$ r0 l6 L! i. X! o2 n	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac# J8 h& L5 E5 M2 X6 u8 Z
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT $ ~" }: V2 U& o7 {	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser 2 v$ j0 s7 g9 F5 c, b' i& h
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE 7 V( M1 X' N4 V	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE" k* \|0 K4 j9 t* @2 U- N t% w) c
• 2001 Toyota Prius 7 u( Z4 c! s p' r% Y	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 9 R2 ?2 ?) X8 M, J6 G
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma 8 [- z- C. H; q	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 7 B5 B9 j6 F: s
• 2001 Toyota Tundra / I3 P# H, b) Z% I; V6 D	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger $ h2 h' g1 C* p; w) g9 S0 L
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE : M( J3 p- z# W! h q	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX $ @+ W( U Y, F. B# {$ l4 O9 V
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited6 u4 @5 @1 i5 z& X: \|	• 1989 Toyota Camry 2 T8 K* m3 s$ H# N; g. S7 w) f- i
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR55 N: A6 P4 c% U! j3 d; E& j	• 1989 Toyota Tercel 8 B* T4 f+ C5 m2 }
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE) }1 Y$ n$ H/ L6 ^ J. ^8 U! S	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX : {+ u5 S$ F4 f; h1 _4 D! l
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE5 ?/ K# f" B- N% d, p. q$ ^	• 1989 Toyota Pickup 7 W2 A# L- H# v7 i5 Z7 Y) z
• 2001 Toyota ECHO 1 ?+ m' B0 E8 ]( c8 k' {" {% Z	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 & ~. X' ]& `$ N! z* S2 s
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS ( r& D1 R" B1 l+ F% ~2 L2 T	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger ( I2 W3 h1 d" G( K
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE& n: D/ {$ J- X# m, o	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ , G( H. x: j6 d% n0 l$ ]
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5# \|4 o- k& X: s" H7 z9 x0 j	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel ! z, O6 r- l2 z) Q9 t# ^
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 1 d# ]( O! g6 Z. _' i* m$ u' q	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX ' Z, R% _+ d/ [+ O+ n/ V" q
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS6 s0 f+ e) c- E6 u; p( `& U4 n	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ' n- a5 Y. b* D7 b% a8 ]- R
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S 9 x( J) `% g" m& R/ v4 q	• 1988 Toyota Camry 4 J' ?6 w) T' Y+ C0 ~
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner + i2 f2 k$ ?' \/ P	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 9 v2 y* h2 m7 Z
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR55 g( X: ?+ ]# z" H4 S1 N) }	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger3 M( D# y$ k ~2 O1 ?
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE 7 \|% m6 y- Y4 @! \|: U$ \|. d. Q	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX 1 f; W" z' o1 A
• 2001 Toyota Highlander , {' ~9 X/ X1 p- o0 Z; a	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac ( Y5 d2 p7 u' [# T: T* u
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited( v3 u' X0 p" e	• 1988 Toyota Van DX 2 u1 z- T3 H2 p4 d- A
• 2000 Toyota ECHO ( H+ a# w0 k, r0 O) X4 t5 W$ ?	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger: W$ K. l& w1 J! H2 A _1 ~
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma 4 [0 L6 _9 X0 J	• 1988 Toyota Tercel + [0 Q& o7 y) {. A( Q, `# \|: e
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT % V7 G5 ?# Z& t6 u/ Y. Q9 m	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE / H% l P0 u0 }4 j
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE % ?, `* [# V8 s. D	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window0 G; n* ?7 o2 B* \|- i7 o5 Q+ W/ q
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 & E) t% ]$ _- E' Z9 Z, V9 j3 J	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton$ B4 `9 J E( k- \; f
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 0 e* Q/ H, F% e% A/ g	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser $ O6 o( n" L$ m9 d2 S$ m
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 J* P. i4 F$ P1 C	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 5 x5 b7 ~5 Q$ D: g1 D" _
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited 2 V. q! {' L1 X7 N	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 3 s7 Q. l# a1 g9 n
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE 8 S) G( F; x1 i/ k- T	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B5 \|: g" t; k) g$ e, D8 W8 T
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS % [; Q3 d) `8 J1 \8 T: F	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 7 A: J# j# O8 R# i
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE , p2 {3 i) W( R$ o0 g \7 ]7 q6 {4 e	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger $ i. }* v& g g1 h
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara + C+ l! u! ]# I$ Q& k4 j A	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5- F. ?2 k6 s, P8 E* ^7 ~2 W2 O
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited! N: l' T* e% z( Z+ i$ g	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX 2 w! u$ t! M# `' w5 g: H! u6 v6 \
• 2000 Toyota Tundra / }3 I; f2 S A	• 1988 Toyota Van LE 8 Y5 C, w$ M/ u: D
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS g; R# M8 i2 G7 E0 }5 h" m4 H	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser $ Z6 ]: u( D1 {4 o
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE/ W& \* a$ ~+ x% R	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5# Y, \|$ O3 k/ f! i& s% V4 A. r% I5 X
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited ! L4 ]5 y. {2 _: a* g; k: g' G& e F	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE 1 C7 K" s. E/ t4 {) E; z1 O
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner # j, }, H( U9 y# b. G	• 1987 Toyota Van DX: [% D. z8 I" e
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE , L/ U4 d. X* k3 Q9 G7 X	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window' ~* @6 V. E" I$ g$ c- I
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 O g& U1 R- H+ l' V	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton T2 K6 @! \|2 ^' z0 L0 T9 m
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE8 U5 f* \|5 ]6 w5 L* v- D9 c	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5- B7 W+ f2 p3 o8 e v) Y6 y
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL7 D- e8 c' i z* u	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX3 T1 h' \|5 S9 ~# \) l
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 5 F/ ^% M* t- K' z" [# v! k	• 1987 Toyota Tercel - z) y! d- z# C# u6 d
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE 2 ]. @' N% ]' z. k$ b" `4 o4 ]	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX 4 V9 I) m/ p9 M2 r- ^
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5( U* g" o% z3 O& {' z( y3 E* c% }8 X1 l	• 1987 Toyota Van LE 0 N4 m( p5 `$ K3 V4 Z
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE4 K- F! U5 o6 ?, q0 m9 t	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel 4 T' F* Z* a' }* k) X! H2 E
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE, c0 o# X ?& J. N: o0 h	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX$ _( x" A y1 c. d7 P( A' R( X
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma 1 m- _8 D& h; ^& t7 `- q) p	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 7 W! D& u0 q) Z, D9 \
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS " p, M2 g7 W2 _* t$ g6 ]) c1 J	• 1986 Toyota Van LE/ ~7 p& W t, U) E) Z! c: P
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE % W" O, }2 E+ ^ h	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser % K$ C: W: x r6 C* D) q
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner % p; K& r; O& o- M9 e/ M& O	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel3 x+ ^/ v) Y- x6 ~0 G
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 3 V* L( M, c" P; {& x	• 1986 Toyota Van DX 5 b: v8 t% a3 \|2 H$ [
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited , b4 [: F0 X8 i; A' {4 ~	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window # t! J8 K- v; d5 w, z/ v9 J5 f7 q
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE$ L6 y- R. X+ _' O* F; S/ B	• 1985 Toyota Van 7 j7 ^! k* n, c4 x
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE ( t/ N* b" A; z	• 1985 Toyota Van LE% z! E; Y$ @' @
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL - n8 N5 c$ \|# P7 j% A3 M	• 1985 Toyota Van DX & b) _" X9 H- n( x9 ?5 C7 l
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE( ^ E5 C* ]9 ?9 _	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser & F, ^9 L) f9 D& B' q: M' w
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited / P3 z0 x4 v5 f( n	• 1984 Toyota Van DX$ X+ d) e' ?) p8 g
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE 0 r; G- `- m6 w* P, S	• 1984 Toyota Supra : P! r0 Z r* z' Y; ?2 h4 n3 S* R
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE 7 ^- [/ k( i: Z! ^, x. N	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX$ V$ L' p a. Y/ \& ^3 N% o% U
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE ; i6 ?5 [8 A8 E: d2 a	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser / P$ R8 b8 Y3 a8 A# [4 Y
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited' s7 j8 c2 T* w" V! f	• 1984 Toyota Cressida # L n% i$ p. s& T
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS 3 k4 h4 ]8 E0 q3 q( M% a; H8 y6 j	• 1984 Toyota Van & Q& m$ v5 t: ~' Z
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE% M, M2 ]/ r6 A9 S$ l& p	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE $ V+ p, b- f: a0 S+ m# w
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner * {' h( [, r# Y, q( D/ U* U& c	• 1984 Toyota Van LE8 h* m$ n4 Q6 Y; M
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE 4 X3 ~$ a0 a1 h) D* K H	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE 9 ?! V( I8 Y+ \|( {
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX/ y, Y6 J6 w* ?+ _ q& a	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 $ V7 c- b; `1 w- m/ F- Q& b/ L8 x
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5! P& e5 x$ T n: J$ c" X* ]! L	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX * }: r! [. Q _* I
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE% m M' I- x- C& ^3 }	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE . W' q! s9 B. S+ g" h+ l& g9 b
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE- C* e; K2 K" _6 _" y N# @ X	• 1983 Toyota Supra " {- z5 Y; M& Z1 H; O8 g$ i. b
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma 1 Q% y( p7 x) K0 }5 u	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 y' E+ e" N+ u. e: [
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL! H9 A8 C5 I: B+ r8 _0 Z @	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX ) ]) ~' T0 q; R0 y: _% Y
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE- I& S3 t3 e1 d	• 1983 Toyota Cressida + P2 Z" k8 G4 i# i# N$ [+ @4 S
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner # _: v G# {' E/ w# m# l, [' b, L	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT; B2 k' s0 M3 k; A
• 1998 Toyota T-100 ' ^, V, s. O$ I	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser - v! a+ ]: o3 e
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited! q3 n$ j3 \|7 g/ c+ l	• 1982 Toyota Cressida & V7 [) _/ _( n% h& T# q5 s: E
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE3 D; f2 f) _3 \7 K+ U$ B	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX7 p0 f. I! e* m% t( P
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 " ]; A8 I, J7 g0 j	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST) i* s: i* G! L% J
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR58 D% W" W, T5 g! G; m; B	• 1982 Toyota Tercel ) R7 a+ e9 a# z$ z, O( x
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX8 O" _& B7 W E. _- J" l) \& \	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 ' n7 N: S4 u- q& V9 P& E4 L3 l5 g- n
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma - ?2 P4 \7 ?: Q3 G( q" {	• 1981 Toyota Tercel + h2 t# _% e5 w7 s% R# N; k$ j
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS5 _% I* U* _) f" t, _	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 1 f1 M8 W3 \5 g& }/ \9 u4 {
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX 2 r( ~! ~$ }4 J8 L	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser % Q, ^* N4 k3 \|, B+ C
• 1997 Toyota T-100 6 U: F7 j/ @/ c) D# \|	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX 9 y' }; r3 K) P9 Y1 d c" h$ L
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited , \0 z( F( G- m6 R9 {9 h	• 1981 Toyota Cressida
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE3 a- s4 c6 S7 n. O1 y	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT% t, ^0 q/ H3 ? `2 P, n
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 . O+ P/ b& e/ Y: M	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 4 q' t7 h- u n+ T
• 1997 Toyota Corolla : U* v7 m" H. \|6 t3 {	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser , B: Z7 u. p7 \|
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 $ \1 _( E; L3 G5 k+ Y	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe 6 D' D+ h. Y: N( }
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL5 L5 h+ B7 x' ]: g0 o	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX: p2 B" S' R9 S' W7 Y1 A4 P) j
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE* p `9 X5 ^4 c( r& X	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST # }9 X2 U. ~# _6 ^, Y/ J% y
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner 6 W- q+ q7 U$ K. x h# w* S. y* ]	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury, }5 E Q% Q% \6 X: K
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE( @- P( x" u9 h8 R; H; _	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 3 L+ T1 x$ c2 p( E3 M5 G
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE6 Y/ `# F q1 \|2 s4 C# I, e	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5, [2 L* U. k2 {, {6 y3 O- o% V5 Z0 ]
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX & i# i# n; O0 d6 B	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe2 V# t; L6 z" s
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE6 S! t3 o' O2 F. F	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5& O8 f! z$ ^& j
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 / V5 C( W5 u. L+ U5 X3 u

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：, N2 e9 D5 D4 W8 T
Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
& }$ p7 @7 y+ p9 l/ v4 L• 1997 Toyota Camry CE7 g$ u1 g$ Z+ v4 @6 l
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表 " }' z* R5 P9 R+ L% ~: v
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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3 I" O5 x! `8 w0 K! j$ W. y佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
& O9 |% r0 a; {- z: ^1 A+ T+ N) A! _ k' ?
由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
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4 d) a" d8 M% ~- J, t1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
9 z& {3 W# E3 z7 L, o3 C+ {2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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