說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表 . Y( d" m& l+ e) B' q
学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
8 d; C9 o0 ?7 r) r* U楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

[ 本帖最后由冷眼看世界于 2007-5-30 02:12 编辑 ]

西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
+ |& M, W( A# Z$ E, t6 a+ v7 D, C楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 3 o' q+ K, u6 V8 S$ E
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE/ J! w; s# K% s2 ?& w+ \|	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE6 c5 _% r- k( X" ]5 V! \# b
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport. j/ w. c4 o9 n- U _	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE+ b6 N/ E" \+ r; d
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE 3 A. j% ~% g+ t( ~* Q _	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX ' U. ^( G: ?' S
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR55 ~; Z; T0 `- h3 L% q+ o	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5: Z4 a0 I6 g7 F& Q& D* l6 I
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE4 m8 V; w6 D" G$ t: ~- N	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE ; D1 t& x$ T2 c- k
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE / m; p$ c1 c2 \|3 ]9 ^& `	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX4 P6 t2 F5 d' {2 j8 ?! h
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid7 d* [& f8 p" T3 p! ^	• 1996 Toyota Corolla ! p/ ^4 E! _1 f' g7 h+ x+ {
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited) C) h: K: ^2 h4 S: q	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5- ]3 o$ @" \|! k$ L) B9 Y, O
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE 1 k8 {( B" `/ W+ o( K7 U9 e+ z	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE ) H b+ ]6 l+ F
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE8 S8 x4 z- n8 u' H2 t	• 1996 Toyota T-100 t5 b. \|4 K; x# H
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE" t) ^6 ]& o6 l# \|	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST + d% w, R, L+ y& y3 _. o. a
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited8 [0 x) C- b8 E& K	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited $ J4 ?. V& y, q( S' k6 \|$ Y0 W2 B
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner" P. n3 a" ~' E( o+ B" L" b( U	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX & P2 w2 ~" J7 h! w
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE% v% }; U0 L2 E1 M& Q, \|+ `	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 3 d, `6 @0 {! c' c; Y- ?
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE) ?) N# j, H6 I* q$ {; ]# N" F	• 1996 Toyota Tercel + O7 H+ ]* \|/ a5 m
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR51 p& N% W6 B/ G* l" g5 {* B	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX6 n" e7 u6 s: o! N
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 7 U% I1 p& d l: P. R	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT. ^+ z) f) f: G
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS " X+ j* w# f! H8 P$ R	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma D- }! z' R& C
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL1 d9 C' E+ q% o4 y/ F( K! e	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner ( p' s' W) S+ ^6 c" x U0 U7 v; Y" Y
• 2006 Toyota Prius ! D. q" U. d! ?0 N	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX 0 j' E0 B# N5 E; a
• 2006 Toyota Camry ' ?1 d* ?0 F9 `- q/ e! E9 N6 [' ], a	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 4 ^5 \2 d6 u" C! V2 ^1 K
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring : B" W- Q! s5 Y	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE$ X8 q" Y( r6 i: l
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma : s+ A7 o6 i u8 X	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE ; @9 {, F6 G, e+ o- S
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE 5 G) M+ t5 D, K; x# }' x	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton * `. d; [9 @+ K9 z2 q/ G: E: h6 [' ~
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited 4 v: t+ x7 e! @6 P/ v	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5! I2 u$ b# G4 r8 j
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner2 b% b+ z. U. K+ f l	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR51 Q" o! K/ w5 j
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 ( I, ~+ J3 k6 A$ U	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX 9 S) X) V y4 D1 c
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S 3 Z s! Z( r. Q: k+ i' t	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX I8 D, s0 l+ n) g/ V
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited 8 \& h. l9 ^7 J3 I	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5) s8 G& p0 q; f1 w5 _
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE 4 n: L& Y; X2 h	• 1995 Toyota Tercel 0 @* S! N3 P5 k7 X5 _3 o2 z* A3 _2 v, N
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS Y G* e. ~7 g' q9 N	• 1995 Toyota Corolla : J7 ?9 M. `- T' D6 m
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner4 V5 [7 c/ n) n/ y. w$ d	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX & `# D- ]- M$ G* s
• 2005 Toyota Tundra ; A# J) [* ^1 l; `	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE 9 Y1 s8 c& A6 z
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS & ~) E q; `' I4 ~4 O	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX6 O. [1 P# H9 Z! W
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 5 B3 f* P4 B* O7 W9 q V1 f	• 1995 Toyota T-100 1 C) `5 r: t$ c0 [; B8 u% a
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited , p6 R- @: ^: ]	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma " ?# ~/ C4 {/ e1 q4 o7 A! O3 I3 p
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL. h: r4 J, ?; v3 U! U	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE % `; [, r7 F D, U+ A8 \
• 2005 Toyota Camry	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 3 \|3 T' X7 z; ^, N' H. H
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring4 S x$ k7 {6 K0 h5 e	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX * l) H5 S. ^0 ?7 w2 D# R
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE ?7 c2 W X$ {! ~- p) v. ]3 X4 }	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX8 c5 q! f2 T; D) v
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE 0 b4 t' [; v+ u* a	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX * x: P; Y$ [; ~6 a
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited 2 A7 x6 w0 r5 [, l/ j0 V+ C5 u	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 3 \|) m) @) {* a6 y
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma 9 C6 d( Q. v, [- ~% W# y9 R	• 1994 Toyota Pickup & \|% g, A* G5 ?+ ^2 [
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S: a: ?0 g5 H) B: d$ ?& n* w" n( P	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE2 i3 e1 h! v5 N
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE 0 C1 G. g) Q' D3 e. ], Y* j4 Q	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE " \|' j( f- O& @4 Z
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited" Y Z9 s7 D1 D) L	• 1994 Toyota T-100 & u# C' h: A. s6 P7 ?3 l, m
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR59 f4 Y; F+ h" r+ `* M7 ~	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5, u! H0 U( j* ^
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE3 {7 _ H- U2 `	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE) ?; ~) @3 X3 X2 p
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 : x5 H8 o8 i! b3 i2 R+ }	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX% s8 Q) d, e, h
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS . B) I8 r8 Y6 E) k$ G6 d	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 9 ]8 G- X# ^+ g* H
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE % U* e9 x, Y0 U, {, a' y; \	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE : q& N6 B n' O0 C
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE9 ]: E* e) ]% u t	• 1994 Toyota Corolla 4 d4 J9 u* s9 @* o; d
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited 6 d) b2 }$ I! j% ]% v" t& S5 v	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton9 d2 e7 v- a+ a6 A" r
• 2005 Toyota Highlander S( m; g! u. G% d, b. o% Y+ z K	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE + R+ Q( r- E' o6 [* S; @
• 2005 Toyota Prius : A8 p9 N6 ?; R	• 1993 Toyota Corolla , r8 I# e5 I' A3 U+ s$ h
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE " s5 w/ f v4 }) E& l& t3 \|	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton6 X+ Z# F: b3 [$ \|' E
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE . E; f, u- `3 C o! `/ O	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR55 i$ V2 ]% G6 d& k: k# W
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited' ^$ H5 H: p* O; J8 r8 H	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX* t9 _7 X; s2 V1 J
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 7 Y0 c6 F/ x) m% N	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX) E" @$ o0 h/ ^* A A
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE$ D0 y0 O4 e$ }& n	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX2 K- G% y" `* g# v6 p
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE , a$ Z' M' n2 x: j	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser : \' u6 z1 Q; O, w* \|
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE ' ]6 @, V0 O, R/ E4 S9 \|' L	• 1993 Toyota T-100 4 ?/ H# i9 l( {
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE' P3 ~0 l( B; ?; W+ n# S! \( i6 S	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE" a! X9 L, ]6 t0 c! r' m4 s
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited # v* z q* w$ H+ s	• 1993 Toyota Pickup 5 d. B) M5 L! ~) G2 M/ h
• 2004 Toyota Prius & b7 w5 T2 w# K7 ` A	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE ' Z1 X w5 o' X* N
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma ' b% y, o( @. Z. ^; B/ s f* s2 u	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE : ]9 ^ n- Z( p# D& c# r8 I! @, E
• 2004 Toyota Tundra + b. m2 g' ]8 d1 s9 Y7 f% M Z	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR58 n& p% d/ f# G8 Y- u! C: C2 z
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE; U, E( p4 o& \|& s: ?	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5. a% l, \|0 x+ R
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited 2 d5 {3 V1 r- G$ e	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE 0 N: ]/ z% S5 n
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited* E7 h/ c$ t: A, K6 b' ~	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE 1 K4 l8 ?4 f# v6 U& h, }6 i# L
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE ( m- B0 O/ Z" {1 x2 m	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX$ I: z' [4 \|. L
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE * ]* n% G. @! L3 B# s	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE 8 n1 f6 ?5 m1 Z- Z( H$ f
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE* w2 i+ D! M: k1 `5 \|) O- Y M4 G	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac & r9 \|2 q9 \|/ q5 d
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited- H5 D. c6 Z+ e) l! w% ~	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton$ a& u3 [$ m+ w R
• 2004 Toyota Highlander " f: j( y0 [7 C7 { a# Y	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE1 n$ o1 q( n1 t7 _5 L7 l* u( d% Z
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ! Q$ Q. L" r0 }! r. ?	• 1992 Toyota Corolla : T0 j3 F5 p+ \|" H
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S ' Z# u! \|/ V1 z \	• 1992 Toyota MR2 1 s! V, X0 ]: V4 B0 T! E
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner - N- s) a8 B3 T' \! b- y	• 1992 Toyota Pickup u8 L! k" H* ?; `1 }
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR59 m: D2 U4 u+ P; ?	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX$ K& V$ _) \* y( C [1 d
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS0 N1 u8 ?9 x( P0 U- m	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac% _3 o# O! T# }: f, M0 u
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner; {$ a$ ~* u% C4 u* \	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR56 x, A- x/ I* G1 R1 [; t R9 h. H6 v
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S8 P9 `. L% u, _- y) m i	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX& o& c- c; Z1 I) F9 Z
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited * t. T9 x! ^; A7 C' F4 O	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5& t7 ^7 T) Z( J# Z- S
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner/ Q2 Q. \|3 V1 i) ]- Y( ~	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser , N4 N8 n5 Q* W9 k0 K& k q9 \|
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5- N1 z2 D1 j, e. x- H0 ~, c	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof + U& e0 L' x4 d/ @
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited 9 H3 i' ?+ f Q! E# n	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE: X4 H" V9 g4 t/ E" i! {3 ~) M; ^
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE7 y' _: z8 X5 \|	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5% w9 Y. N1 Y. k% r7 X Y
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT , w T8 L8 Q- k" X	• 1991 Toyota Camry ; h! [# g4 w+ y5 L( Q% V
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE( l& j. `8 P/ p: G	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 P* ^; x9 z6 `9 n/ ]$ ?
• 2003 Toyota Highlander ' z: H9 p6 \|" R	• 1991 Toyota Pickup ; v% _4 S0 d5 H; w3 U; j
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma / J4 R2 ~8 u) q% ~0 d6 I	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX6 d+ r9 j# k2 ^
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 3 m4 D- b+ ~5 b' m, Z d r	• 1991 Toyota MR2 5 t6 r8 J# k2 s
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE # Z$ p0 K# D: L. h2 \	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5' T$ a5 [- I) @0 I/ Z5 e4 {
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited " W& W( l w! B7 x0 M. }+ t% Y5 N	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX # r9 i, @7 y% J+ b3 `6 B
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE! u. R& J, [# H% J" Z0 \|	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac ; X/ ? S$ t5 f _! ]. J
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ; z8 o5 p3 K' o; U3 n: y4 @* V	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac" n+ z+ k- u: M0 x& u& }
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE ' c0 K* R" c3 Z" Z. A	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof& }' Q) ?+ _4 O% G& u" f
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE5 s9 u8 M. J9 x6 k) o$ A0 j) ~6 J& q	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX& r' }- f+ }' {6 S
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited b2 A) E7 P' ?# E9 N7 g	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE! m/ I$ R. o5 b
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited . Z. e( M5 t+ G! p2 Z% H8 t$ a	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton$ h1 v R1 C. `6 l J
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited+ K6 l; f2 w; @5 Q0 K2 ]	• 1990 Toyota Pickup 5 W; C3 d3 A- ?+ H, a/ T
• 2002 Toyota ECHO ! G: O8 z2 e; W ~$ d	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE* ]1 e2 _' Q2 R3 z5 B7 _' [
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE # k" N0 i% m1 h: X( x; B- r	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR54 _- @ y4 I9 d% U5 z/ L- t
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited , W1 s- `$ \|) ?	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ9 F# q% Q8 B7 G; V& l8 \( Q ]
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE& K7 t& J7 L7 z	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT; i* P- l) V/ h+ G1 G# s
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT y9 o* R a" K& ~$ }6 X	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base- ]4 w6 z1 y8 E
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner0 ]# P: N0 q( F) [3 n	• 1990 Toyota Camry + @, ]4 q7 T. }% o9 x/ @
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S 0 \+ M3 L- u# I+ H	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST , b" o, O# x1 k. L
• 2002 Toyota Highlander 3 ^% k9 r: m, L	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX* s& `* a Q8 `8 z# Q/ C) R
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner1 r4 _2 n6 E$ c) y# l	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX. j: x+ b5 g; K9 P6 u7 g
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 * a0 h# z0 A4 B1 l7 l: N; b+ X	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ( h5 c. S) s0 c: M: P
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR55 n9 n: A8 P8 Y. h4 P	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS: c. p5 y: }# x
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE 4 J7 D. m5 S- E! V	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 w) Z! A+ g# \. s: E& g) L
• 2002 Toyota Prius % `' f5 G' L" a/ T	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton $ y8 K! E1 t/ t2 c" V
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 6 C; t* f' f; @6 `' u! z	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX; ^% }+ e7 ~7 z4 I! i- i
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS 6 L' m: n) a- R) u: h8 H* g$ g: y	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 8 p6 G$ d+ n$ {. C4 x# ^( p
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE . `4 \" o; s) H1 @6 k	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac' q: m9 ~9 Z+ ?+ a9 `# o7 [
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma 1 }; W- @4 C6 `3 f" g	• 1990 Toyota Tercel 9 X7 l; H# F7 @' \
• 2002 Toyota Tundra ' b& z$ }0 A# A# y	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac ; l7 i! F k" U+ R# @1 X7 V
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE ' Z0 N. W# }! x( e% R" D2 F	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac" y. Y: U0 I, e0 \; x3 _' \
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE1 s" m9 i% a6 i& c7 e	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger , W* {8 J$ u: z7 p: n$ E9 I
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL $ R" S9 W6 \|) `1 c* d' R( h	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base # O! k% D8 ^- z1 Z* L# w- V
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited ! Q1 Z6 b+ p1 \' o! x	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac% `$ M& l! [- J2 f, Q; [, R/ h
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT5 P$ X& ~8 O' N/ s% C	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser ! J. O) p$ K) g \+ {9 s
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE $ X* [5 h, A5 \: U	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE5 Y- E% D0 Q4 N) t3 s; q
• 2001 Toyota Prius % y Q3 L* u( T. Y7 _0 v	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX3 [& u8 ]% ~' p# x5 }
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma 6 y6 n' L- w3 v1 ^	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton7 Q7 e# J" k! O
• 2001 Toyota Tundra & m4 X& M% e2 D& q; k	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger4 U3 N% \|$ H/ ? d% B" J
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE+ V9 V4 n/ u$ @/ ~9 c% A; @( c% K	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX 4 H0 [9 e4 V6 u+ W
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited( q+ { M. u3 G: r+ A3 n	• 1989 Toyota Camry ; Y( c0 p/ p" l5 B ^
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5) B, V) \9 `% k- w6 Q5 v	• 1989 Toyota Tercel # d5 W) J7 _" J c/ L
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE1 ~6 i* r2 C* M7 d, v	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX % s( E( ^: n: h1 H/ a2 `) H7 ^0 o
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE 3 Z# C' C' G- z	• 1989 Toyota Pickup # [0 {' D, y/ H
• 2001 Toyota ECHO * \) \3 q; V# g, }2 N	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 & b1 e+ \/ P) f6 E; C1 i* ?5 w
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS / U+ r( Y X, s; g& f a	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 6 H+ j4 H: y: S1 h) w9 G. w
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE7 G! U& }8 a g	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ / m# a8 k4 k7 v) m
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5. Q% K, T/ d: e+ t* k, h	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel9 o# f3 Y+ u E1 Q
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ' T" K* X% D& B5 i* W! _) ^: E$ v	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX9 N5 m) K0 l& d
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS( x; J. @" E# I. A; H& [	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ! q9 z: {9 g" T. g8 P+ V! D+ Z
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S( R4 x7 d, k2 o* ]	• 1988 Toyota Camry + ^3 X. X+ J% Y& G2 Y
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner+ b Y4 i6 H/ \" W	• 1988 Toyota Pickup ' E I3 f, I5 N* A' V
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 . Y3 P2 T9 ~- J	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger* P# L5 t. m/ O' q9 @
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE& D1 C: r# u/ R* r9 C" _	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX ( U+ X# i2 J4 h
• 2001 Toyota Highlander 8 Z+ L: a3 ^; n; [/ v3 [3 a% \|9 S! N7 f	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac$ D& a, e; J- T
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited5 D/ M D: r6 f) W2 t9 z. f5 F	• 1988 Toyota Van DX 0 L# ]" @ u2 O t) \' W4 d6 {
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 5 c' ?) z' X A. D1 h	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger ' @: ]9 ~" q: B
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma $ G, \|) `9 p4 p+ r+ W3 C. T	• 1988 Toyota Tercel ) C, D5 l! c! p$ H( `1 i6 j
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT 5 M2 v4 O9 k+ ^) e3 P) X5 q	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE : y9 \|! N$ Y3 r6 J& x, }
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE6 F7 h4 ?$ y! p) L0 h# e	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window: X& ^1 n& L3 q$ P8 W; R+ K: t
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 ) y5 G' o4 P6 K m+ I* S- s	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton 4 Q' n0 a1 `1 Y3 F$ ^, }6 D. y
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 8 j8 R& _5 x8 Q5 e7 c. s: H	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser ( U5 `& P+ f* B" h: q$ m& U
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 ; U+ G0 b) r0 L	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 - x) e# {2 ?& s' R! h) o: n4 x) K
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited & j3 K) j' C1 @, u# F) c. @	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger . A5 k$ \2 k; p' ^ w9 F4 Z8 b6 q
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE. a9 O2 F5 \|4 ]) ^: X+ x; u( W5 q	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B$ n/ }" s2 ]6 C2 {: U
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS% e9 t5 j+ x$ o3 j' r	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac, f9 n1 ~- ^, ~: h l
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE! \|6 N- _ W9 ~# n& h+ n: \* A. ~	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger 2 P( s: z0 K6 ^% A& t$ @7 z( }
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara " b! G8 q% o% q% T3 B+ G; ?* e	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5' \* Z0 b, Z5 n* B9 Z9 X
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited % Z6 z6 F5 O' N% b7 f9 g	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX0 m" {4 W6 Y8 u
• 2000 Toyota Tundra , T0 x9 ^: y' _" {+ k	• 1988 Toyota Van LE! y' P$ I# `- D( k! J5 T
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS G1 [5 p7 h& f& d- @! i6 \8 @) O	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser & h! j' T6 j& x
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE* }+ E! w7 a, [) {! Q0 n! e	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR59 B/ d) M- D, N5 l' ]
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited4 \|' t8 q3 E( q- M) ?9 B9 h, T	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE7 L3 r8 }. r6 T4 C
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 7 {+ }. S8 w* }3 H$ @. G( J	• 1987 Toyota Van DX- H2 W0 z- O2 {+ Z/ b1 j
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE O$ g* ^1 c8 @4 q( m3 [	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window - {2 c* L' u8 ~* R
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5) _' q" I4 g8 S& d	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton ( P. w& C5 i8 {+ @
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE$ g- d% o0 D- _. u	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 0 i4 s4 U+ }9 y4 v
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL$ z6 T& u: }7 j r) c	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX" W" y- k% r# {
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 7 e1 c9 Q" }& \|1 W2 ~+ ~/ X5 k8 Y	• 1987 Toyota Tercel ) ~6 c" Z4 S# ?
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE 7 T5 U( u( c8 q) ~; C. V, G7 B	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX, v1 c- x4 H' b$ U0 N3 U
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 / G4 ~+ z! P& C7 ~- c	• 1987 Toyota Van LE # k1 u* {, B2 f1 Q
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE" m) y8 e6 J+ I' p	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel0 ?; S- n8 P, o4 ^
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE% k4 b" e; S y6 ]9 b	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma ( Q! D G: ]7 D	• 1987 Toyota Pickup ( L3 t$ a" v1 t6 Z0 b1 P
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS- L3 S2 A. d' o0 D; V. }' [9 Z, r- B	• 1986 Toyota Van LE7 V* M% m3 q# W* P$ r
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE$ X9 ^+ ]/ K3 [9 E7 I8 \|! L	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser Q- j/ s) \|, n; V7 D8 ~; T8 K
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 4 U! X1 @+ y! I2 V" o% z& i2 U' H8 H" m	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel& [7 m, q D' B; C: P: P1 h
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 4 f' H5 _7 ~* Y8 Q4 Z	• 1986 Toyota Van DX ' x+ v8 r0 \|* i9 f4 L/ b
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited 6 b* x! u$ H* E' r' N	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window ' P8 o1 M. t0 y9 f4 O& L- N
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE 6 U1 _" s' k U# O$ u	• 1985 Toyota Van % F4 n2 N/ I ^' F w( w( s
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE % a: j% D0 j+ m5 U( O	• 1985 Toyota Van LE : t* S# y9 t1 _* z# W
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL2 J' k2 [) G6 P, X2 x! a	• 1985 Toyota Van DX 2 m$ @( g( k2 ^: C3 u# I l+ }3 g
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE3 T/ K" v! \% O	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 _3 ~: W0 M0 O6 C, f& h) L
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited' l# ~7 O- `6 g, J/ k	• 1984 Toyota Van DX * ^7 V9 Y7 X+ B5 e8 e- `
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE9 A' I& X9 H/ ~: Z( O5 \|	• 1984 Toyota Supra 1 w- [% L0 v9 B, D
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE 4 ~& U. w: J' h0 q- ^2 Q	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX0 K9 } g' A8 d, d G" W
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE $ Y. w1 b9 d% u) }! \	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser ' m/ K* d- J5 [+ o% L7 x- C: i
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited 0 h# [% z6 ]# p! N( t3 `. \|	• 1984 Toyota Cressida 8 W( v4 h2 ~6 F, Y* B
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS$ E8 z) U g. L3 o7 x+ c	• 1984 Toyota Van 7 E" N" N0 u5 n& {
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE: n! v. {& n) o+ h	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE / p7 u( P/ }2 n9 \( g2 A
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner 2 Y( S5 E: o9 g) O) a I	• 1984 Toyota Van LE: d" c1 D* h. \: e5 q4 w
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE4 E. V) R; X7 d$ c8 O	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE% x2 ^) o4 @4 P" p
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX ) F% Z. b$ o' T- f+ s7 J	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 2 i' W4 R# A* t, {# @ g; S2 n
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 : s w1 }, B, m% ~ z( V t% G- i	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX * j, M- ?* O' k4 \: A6 I2 q$ L
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE 2 F: p- c) B0 C4 \3 a @* R	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE: q3 L! F' t' L. N- j: u/ p
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE 9 d5 t2 y0 P: v! K3 H	• 1983 Toyota Supra 7 b' e$ f4 \|5 S a. p& U
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma 3 b8 m$ N9 p7 }% X9 B	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 P" E4 c' s( P6 G; u
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL3 S5 r8 I, l! r( m8 P	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX $ C, Z" F& U; V' y# I+ E9 t( x
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE 2 K! F: H- S; ?7 r5 i! g4 c	• 1983 Toyota Cressida H9 f) Z, P9 ?4 b
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner$ Q' ^5 f- p4 }$ M1 V' m	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT9 m+ y* d8 V3 ^8 W+ E
• 1998 Toyota T-100 1 b2 _) m$ H- H: ]2 F	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser \|! t. X" r P- `
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited$ P3 T) z9 Y( _, A6 ]	• 1982 Toyota Cressida : m. I, I* N0 F! J, P, v0 M
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE - g+ t% t7 J5 H9 c	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX5 h( `0 S" _8 C1 l W
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 ! G3 j* i3 B# a7 ~, O	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST5 w' [6 \$ K0 M
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR51 p- Z/ [- V2 s2 M4 {! m	• 1982 Toyota Tercel * K* D( ^1 D9 \$ A* Y* j+ p
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX1 c: ?8 }" B- V s- z	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 ' L( x/ t& F7 Z' B& d* k/ c: p
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma / y" `, j9 ]( U/ l	• 1981 Toyota Tercel 0 v0 j- U0 U. ]0 \|1 K
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS % z3 t! v- S8 e- ?8 A	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5! ~" U* o* O/ b ~- ?
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX% P8 r2 {6 o! l	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser ) O/ {( l G$ I+ L- i1 \
• 1997 Toyota T-100 7 Y. x- s5 R9 t7 b$ Q	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX" J. v: J# p) P4 r3 u
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited : \3 c# [0 u2 K' E	• 1981 Toyota Cressida $ O6 Q, N1 h/ X2 ? b, T7 ?
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE ; K+ R9 \4 ^7 l9 ], \|	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT# \|0 F, v( k7 G7 b2 i) F
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR58 [: r0 y2 U$ d- c# q2 m- B	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 4 e8 r7 o; [& a& ]# w1 o
• 1997 Toyota Corolla ) `9 v8 B. S! y8 \	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 f0 v3 I+ B {) X- w% E. w
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR50 c2 w8 V/ I# }4 `	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe( p/ l8 l+ s! u6 f
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL0 n% \|, {$ z J# c; L	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX 2 U" m5 r k; B8 v7 }
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE: }2 k, _4 U* }/ l9 l	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST, t$ ~) z9 e4 v" Y" X# q
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner ! b5 a+ i" k( E" f# g, R6 v! v	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury+ n& K: y2 h: ^ O
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE. \|: r: l0 K1 h	• 1980 Toyota Tercel * `2 M! m) \$ n( w
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE5 u3 a7 v. ^" d	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5 & l; C( }! K3 [+ z c T% F
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX , C7 x! m$ m o6 z H	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe 9 k# u# g3 E: f/ q8 {$ C( E
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE * A3 ]! ^* h8 ~$ S	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5) e. L. C9 I5 R! F% b
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 9 g2 P0 K6 W) C

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 7 u; [' t+ _) C! s
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：# ^7 |# e) y$ t
Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE6 M. i0 x8 ?. u
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE' W* Q5 |7 E3 c, D7 ~+ u
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
8 h( D) t- {' o" zApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表 8 Q1 a7 Q" \8 _: s" q
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佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
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由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
7 m# Z6 w0 y. k5 T4 I! A  g$ j7 C; I+ O, E5 h& E3 Z. O) ?
1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
1 h4 T0 D' `2 a$ \& T* D, h0 E/ k2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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