說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表 4 p7 c2 e1 i/ l7 |* q
学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 + r1 q- c9 @5 E2 c* f' _6 U
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

[ 本帖最后由冷眼看世界于 2007-5-30 02:12 编辑 ]

西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 ! q) h# F& _" w7 z& k9 r* T
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表 # _6 [9 y  [) G2 y$ m+ {
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4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination
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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE! l. n2 w$ T- c9 h" i	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE . j3 C: R" U7 Z: s: @ Y
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport" S; b" S z4 C2 M5 \	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE" F b2 k. Q8 z" ^& y6 X
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE * N4 S% N6 M: \8 @. J	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX/ C3 \. D; Z$ Q0 f( n- N
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR50 v( l! f5 K) T$ Q5 a4 e	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR57 g' f2 T3 d; i1 A8 D- v
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE 2 P' \* k! R+ N	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE 8 {4 q: W7 F0 W2 X4 F
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE * _2 C0 ~2 {' [2 C$ X$ `	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX 9 s$ W1 d$ t `# F, O+ n
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid7 r" v6 H s" n) V. i! v	• 1996 Toyota Corolla 6 \|, R! Z* @+ ~ c/ {
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited - N, i1 x' \2 H+ p	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR53 t, V6 S( C& [. b A& p/ M
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE $ c$ H( [3 T9 @+ [$ Y6 ]	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE & g( X5 z3 o. c* U$ J. y
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE ; x2 g' D$ z$ o9 G6 ]8 Q- C	• 1996 Toyota T-100 6 K0 ^8 J( D5 a5 P+ G( u
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE E- l* } e: I5 M; A	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST) \|% c/ p$ u8 o4 \|6 Q9 }
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited + `6 \|5 k/ U ^1 u$ s$ e	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited! k& D# t6 {; w& n
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner' v0 }* O( m) x( q- ~	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX0 l. h9 T6 b" \|# N) E
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE1 a. u& E; p( {! o	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR59 X9 `+ \|1 P L- E0 b. e& }2 P0 G
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE ( P. ~/ \|- T4 Q; i% `	• 1996 Toyota Tercel ( f s2 q3 ]" J8 u* c% ]: W2 f9 W
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 2 F3 t: j. O- {" Y. Y2 j% `	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX ' N" p1 E: N8 q" d: E% }3 q: e; ?
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 9 U. P- Y; v" U, o* o' W+ L	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT7 A+ N, w# `/ ]" m: \|$ {
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS" ?4 f& Q, c# a1 n	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma ) j( J6 C: A6 n* F7 A+ V9 U2 z1 }
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL 5 B, k, _. v/ j5 K6 c- I	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner * t2 J5 h& i4 U
• 2006 Toyota Prius ' i5 j6 h$ T3 x9 f6 s, t	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX 7 _8 ?( z) n2 d; r3 B% C$ r7 B
• 2006 Toyota Camry % {1 U" ^3 e! y. J( {	• 1995 Toyota Pickup , G% i( p$ d% G1 T7 C. s
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring% [* I i& R0 p4 l5 u& c% c3 g2 m	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE D+ n6 ^. D$ v1 G G: B! j
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 6 \|8 ]5 c! Y- j" }1 U& \$ W: D8 U	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE7 `$ E+ @3 [9 e& F
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE # Z* U/ V/ v* _9 _ M, L7 k	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 4 [# i l* Q+ K- {0 f1 E) ^
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited % T. A! H1 R. I! B/ T$ ~	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR51 H# F4 N0 e- L- e' U: }) q
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner 3 F- q$ I# w( M/ C3 F2 D# r- w	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 - M5 D% z" Y( C/ x$ I$ G
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5* V4 M/ W9 E, S o' \% W& M	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX * Z" i0 L! n1 Y3 R
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S7 ^% E! P) w% Z! B( S	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX " w; M% t' F- V! D2 z
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited; `; h1 U! K( {	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 + g, I; F4 X, L' F% o
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE6 B2 `' R9 v& F- J3 r	• 1995 Toyota Tercel ' ~: f& @$ t- h* w% h: \
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS 1 P8 E) h1 R( F	• 1995 Toyota Corolla + t5 E1 Q0 t7 b% {2 G* o
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 0 d/ W! L- s, _5 ]# S+ K' l2 h	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX 6 b# c0 \|7 b9 r3 `; s. X
• 2005 Toyota Tundra 6 E: g5 b# N# \4 i/ P$ M. I	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE& s+ S% L& x& \. V
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS + K* Q0 x, p( z; G	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX 8 H; M2 A+ a1 \6 ]2 ?
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5! c X. v6 S9 W5 d	• 1995 Toyota T-100 # U7 N3 _1 S+ U1 y; c2 s
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited L: P5 E, {" V& T8 i% L/ l	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 6 R) l/ G* l9 W# O
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL 6 l! ^- h) K4 z2 N" O	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE# ~ n( U6 i3 _9 L) l x
• 2005 Toyota Camry % Y5 K6 x, P- V8 y# c0 r	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 ) j. i4 E0 m8 L2 ]# C
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring 9 V6 f c8 N7 ]: ~* e) a	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX # ?9 U' h# C: Q/ G0 c) T& k
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE 0 F' ^6 }6 ~$ u2 `9 G	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX 8 l/ W) e% m2 S# K, P8 ^7 G
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE3 y9 ?0 Y' V) W	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX p7 t) U- e! D8 H1 F
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited- T- Q: ~6 c0 A, `	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR54 h: V! y# c$ p8 U: q5 a2 n
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma . e8 c1 c( f, g2 {' C	• 1994 Toyota Pickup * {0 C1 V. H% T: m3 r
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S : o- \! K! C4 O7 m/ a	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE 3 E/ i% S. H- w* Y! P% q8 n, f" F
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE" f: D3 @& p. ?) q6 U: q	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE 0 T% M) X. B9 \: e
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited $ ~3 Z' ]% b) B5 {/ ?1 O+ \	• 1994 Toyota T-100 + F+ r* Y# T S6 D8 _
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5# H/ ?% _- b. A3 p$ j9 e	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5$ a9 ]9 o! t; J2 D
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE 9 B6 Q. o8 y# Z+ l2 C	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE8 ~5 d3 u r; b4 J3 \|! c- W( Q
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 5 ?0 a9 u1 p3 Q& y+ d8 \|2 ^ g- W	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX . Q% F1 I1 ~# x8 \|7 C) \! C7 J
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS7 A1 h9 C: L% Y	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 g) q* n+ N* X
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE5 Z1 V( x* t4 o0 X2 h	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE % `" w% Q/ B% e1 q# i' I1 a" o+ Y
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE / U( q+ u# V* l	• 1994 Toyota Corolla ( z) @, Q1 l& c, x/ w
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited* [) g. K! Q+ Y; W- B' ^' W6 b	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton! C8 i \|' q5 b* n4 t) Z
• 2005 Toyota Highlander j" _* q" n; X5 d	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE! w9 P# @7 ]% g$ j% d: F
• 2005 Toyota Prius ) q( A& s/ V8 h. C9 [, Q	• 1993 Toyota Corolla 1 s* ] S2 a! \) ^% c
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE: ]. P$ J( Z5 Z	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton 8 N" W# a" ^9 B [( Z' [
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE Z. H& @. `" e# u. D( d	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR56 L! A5 c/ b- X: {8 ~$ T! x; O3 Z
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited# @3 }. F+ P, j! m	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX ' `2 U" ~9 e; z8 n& M: ?9 C; J9 B) }' U
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 & r, f# S% Y4 q \|8 F# E$ _. D	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX% C' T0 _' V* p. F( [' O
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE) \|7 Y3 j" r- G: g	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX ' E6 e2 _9 ~- j8 q' s
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE8 P8 R/ }' f2 N5 F	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser # Y3 W# k" ^ v& x- ?7 G# q0 b
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE0 F( ?( Q' E+ p. u! }	• 1993 Toyota T-100 , g2 u/ H* u) I3 b
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE5 O% f# I' \* {$ p2 d* O* {	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE9 `) v' U) E8 N' d& a5 \
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited 5 @, Q5 J! V6 R7 Y L$ n; c5 p* Y	• 1993 Toyota Pickup d; b/ a, W0 k3 S% z+ L6 X
• 2004 Toyota Prius 3 @: m. T# e9 G B8 @) ?- c	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE + e$ F9 M4 h- M _9 R
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma m5 p) Q* t `0 o2 I c- b	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE $ w5 c2 n7 t0 I. Q* G
• 2004 Toyota Tundra * r' R, \) h6 ^* i7 u6 H	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5* Y$ V+ B' S+ f8 t' A. r! D
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE, W$ E1 n, l5 b* ]! E' {7 k	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 ; v5 h9 y: ^, I
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited8 z) D5 y. M, T. j	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE0 L! _8 w+ z' a+ }6 P- F0 h
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited; m- i: j6 w. k: [	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE' {8 x" j- {! G% X; \# z! p
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE* n, V# p4 w' [+ n6 \( h	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 0 b$ B. b; N1 n6 N! m7 N+ B* O$ @9 @
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE3 w% i" q& g5 d/ R! b- N	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE2 T0 C7 `' G: B" t: P, ~0 Y
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE ! P/ e g7 i ]- c/ c! l	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac7 k$ m+ [ e) s; F4 V: Q) p
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited " Q% B& \& q3 S	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 8 G" @# ~7 c6 b5 e2 N; k1 g# Y
• 2004 Toyota Highlander " Y3 r4 _9 _1 x4 ?% c	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE , \) h% K/ d6 w2 T/ l
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner , \|3 o8 t# D2 H6 u	• 1992 Toyota Corolla $ F7 Q b7 [1 x% G+ [! {* `
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S 7 [; w9 Q( D* D9 D3 F	• 1992 Toyota MR2 4 `% T5 I2 c7 H8 W0 ^, L* f! Y# [
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner' @ x0 f; h! D& c	• 1992 Toyota Pickup . W. }9 i. J8 S/ a& L
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5; m& U9 n( c; H	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX 7 c& X! R& p; l& \* K
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS 9 Q* [9 ~6 V& M0 [# k	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac - g2 I) \|% Y+ j- w' G( @
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ' C$ J& R7 a2 [+ \	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5 3 D1 e/ _+ N' Q2 J4 I S
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S9 D9 Q) p* i0 l$ \. y4 H0 K	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX4 H; ]: G: Z: z2 b7 e
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited ( }3 C0 R$ b* N% u8 r1 O k	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5. `9 b. `# V% B# u- q& \8 v6 s
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 7 O( i7 \0 T3 M1 Z' H	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser ( g" l! E7 L; i0 \; n4 _
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 g1 x( L$ l, ^3 d! Y/ N4 L, A	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof q$ G; U: D7 C7 D7 I
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited j4 s$ ?/ }/ o6 @8 d	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE 8 n5 z8 x) C5 D7 H# ~' {" }
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE 3 `1 X. c* o1 h+ c% Z' \|# w	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 - W P$ f3 J3 g e% Z$ Y
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT , h, e! \- A( z0 {: ~	• 1991 Toyota Camry
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE. q/ @7 v1 u! o2 w% n! _! U	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser ; C7 c1 B; A' X3 M6 q" I( u
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 1 U0 j* s* N) k1 q: R. N& x0 a	• 1991 Toyota Pickup " Y5 D" G6 D }% F* i. [& [
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma + [5 K1 ]. J' V+ W- M	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX: J+ V+ X8 z+ E, V% i) E
• 2003 Toyota Tundra W$ n* I/ k5 b	• 1991 Toyota MR2 , H8 J0 `8 h6 p7 t
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE3 Y5 Z' ]( z: t. z6 u1 H	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 6 l. X" I, c8 ^) U8 ]+ n
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited8 s& R$ n) S: M2 {( P- P	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX# d5 t$ _: N' v$ O+ w
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE , V- f0 A7 L# D" `1 Z4 @0 m# v	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac ! L; o7 J4 z( H
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 1 ~3 J/ m, J5 `/ E3 B# r- _( F	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 1 n' h9 G o+ b6 O0 X
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE " c/ I8 h& U' S	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof 4 E3 r. E- S/ E
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE1 p! G3 o& [1 P	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX; L3 t* r: ~' \7 ` O
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited 4 K( ]% T# z9 A	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE2 x& a5 _% ~8 Z/ g/ M" _
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited a; q' F. k9 c. @	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton" ~! Y. K" R6 ~( ?$ N q
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited9 A5 @) r6 F8 d3 x	• 1990 Toyota Pickup 7 G# ]0 r4 q$ K0 y: u
• 2002 Toyota ECHO 7 Q+ V$ L8 B4 C3 C* ] ]; i( E	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE1 s6 `* z# E( H- v; z
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE1 m* Y- F6 R# g/ s	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 9 r% S, q2 M ?! a' B, `. a
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited: t4 ^- Y+ q4 J6 F4 p	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ ) w) W! Z+ v K) v
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE ) R8 c& p# M& I' [% I# v# g	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT 7 B8 Q6 [* I& e" Y- a* H
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT : @7 J/ c9 [" m3 l2 }6 U	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base & M* P# G; s: g- ]
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner & p" i; W9 v# K' a5 y W	• 1990 Toyota Camry % v `2 r8 G0 x3 v* a# o, o7 L, z
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S' E X& I" g$ f	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST ; A( k6 h' K" \|# `7 e1 q
• 2002 Toyota Highlander + W# L! q; \3 q) C$ S	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX 2 t' ]+ K$ t* y- W2 q
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ' c4 o1 j. p$ k* w	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 0 W( V @% a. a
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 9 A) ^+ r3 A4 V* z	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR50 h: r; @. R: D4 Z* G4 B
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR56 B: E( K S1 x4 L# d	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS 3 u5 p, d S1 O' _" I
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE+ Q6 z0 a- N+ a0 M$ Y	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 o+ ?2 K5 Z; T, X. \4 {
• 2002 Toyota Prius 6 i' A' c; p5 q L% x2 z	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton / j4 _' p: B1 Z" M
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 $ W" K7 g+ a3 }. T7 I- r/ J	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX # n- f/ t1 L1 b0 G) z8 y5 u3 R3 K
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS2 v6 m- \|* \|$ e0 u) s	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac! \+ j9 A9 w. J4 ]
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE6 J7 n5 \|- B0 b% Z4 R8 B	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac+ P: t4 z) r$ E- m2 F! ~
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma E0 `4 f7 s. K' S5 D0 ?	• 1990 Toyota Tercel " g/ F* d( Y2 ]" S
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 0 s4 L) E- w2 K% [	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac/ Z4 S. ?' e+ j7 e. [2 c* C
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE 7 o( \/ `# ^( k. L9 _& x	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac [0 [# j/ R$ h% h3 j6 }
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE / e( h0 {& \|' W: K% A: g. f	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger 9 M# }. P3 T" t8 u7 }: Q( I
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL 6 u! G4 \|/ k+ d' Y% ~0 Z	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base b P7 x& w0 t9 e" \
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited) j( M6 G" o+ \|	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 0 L9 L u9 J: b; F( O7 @
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT5 m% Q: A/ c1 ?1 d8 J* \% ~	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 u- w+ j% O9 Z b6 N
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE) M; m# X( _! }/ u, Y) h7 a	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE; Y! I( T g. f" t# v* v
• 2001 Toyota Prius / i; I1 U4 h+ z" w5 r( ~	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX+ Q" o- I d7 `7 z6 Q
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma 6 T! h5 x5 r$ g; m2 o	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton " e" T3 \ q+ N, j$ X+ d6 G
• 2001 Toyota Tundra $ V' Q& @ E& K( t0 \|6 c	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger- i R, A6 i- }. K8 l7 e. V
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE$ i. n' J/ J) X) q	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX) G. e/ ~7 L' p4 L4 Q7 f
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited) Q* z$ X# ~6 \|- F+ \|	• 1989 Toyota Camry , k( I9 X/ Q6 J: q! X, f- a
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5% e$ X" _# X6 K$ n	• 1989 Toyota Tercel & t! o5 o# ]# f
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE 4 H( m5 W- Y; m	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX 3 m* \|' u3 Y* S% v3 n6 W
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE 9 z" i+ A E8 u+ S* I+ r4 Y	• 1989 Toyota Pickup 2 n) V* j& U# [' d1 ~3 c% _
• 2001 Toyota ECHO , \|4 B) @. V' \, o/ C/ V	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 : E1 H! e7 z# }5 U/ H
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS0 i: m3 D+ W- ]' h2 R% n$ z3 n' \	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger + `0 e9 P) A( G6 q/ d8 p
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE& O$ \|6 X2 X/ b5 ~" f	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ ; p' ~0 B p* X3 K# s$ e1 P
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5/ o, O7 ]5 }' j, e	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel3 S# N1 {, X; a1 \|+ e
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner% X9 ^' ?2 r% x& e5 ]0 c	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX3 \6 `. ~" _8 i5 C! {* \|' R) T
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS 4 m- L# U6 [) _1 e7 ~# L* J	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ3 l3 y/ }; \0 F# R" ~5 h: o2 l3 g
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S 5 Y1 q2 K) J* q" e3 e0 t" X9 l0 R	• 1988 Toyota Camry 8 S9 X5 v7 J! h' Y! h
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner0 C1 ?, H, I8 w2 @) F	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 8 ~6 O) F& z: A
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 ( b1 W! H. V7 ^4 Y- S1 T	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger % u* Z& y( Q/ P& L* J
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE " T9 p, D. J/ K	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX3 b% T0 G2 K% W; X1 l
• 2001 Toyota Highlander ( t4 [9 A" u3 j: X- x) { U	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac( A* B0 D+ N7 ]
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited % \- \1 x7 B ^7 u& N5 _	• 1988 Toyota Van DX2 m3 W* ~( m% j: B
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 8 c8 j8 f1 A4 H. C	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger 1 O3 u, q# `: G* K' y/ V& d
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma 7 m% j( c- c! J	• 1988 Toyota Tercel 0 {2 ?9 \|/ [) q2 c8 x
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT* W+ c' u( S) G1 u7 z \" m5 Y( y	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE7 s* c. H4 l, M
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE 9 }1 B$ l' Y( A6 V3 _5 D	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window4 t: J/ Z7 `, K3 R
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 ; ?, B& M; n4 ^1 b4 g( v	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton % K8 S o1 `. @, G& B
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 8 `8 N' `0 \|- ?0 J8 p/ ]	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 F1 z$ B+ w* y/ ]$ c/ {
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR57 P( R4 c/ a/ B$ _; A	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5$ W; h$ I( w" e
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited 4 M% {; O/ I4 g1 p% v7 F	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger " }5 W4 c9 m/ z% o) G) c1 H, g
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE0 u2 p( I" Y6 x3 d) x4 a	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B : ?4 o: {) r4 Q {, z, ~1 Y
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS & g$ w6 i) w* r1 W; A& C	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 1 n# M2 v) }; w e
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE7 F) t+ @& N. s, S* V	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger 6 p, S6 M8 O2 \4 ?* _0 e5 s) w, S
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara , }' j2 X* O' u. ]7 y7 C5 u4 }2 Z	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5% }4 t; H9 B' \|
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited6 d6 I k! x, h0 ?% G	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX9 X4 H3 s: m0 ?( s4 b
• 2000 Toyota Tundra 4 S* R8 ~4 g* f9 j; W4 M	• 1988 Toyota Van LE , P# T0 Q9 }+ r, t: A0 Q5 d( c. F
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS + E- z' p3 j2 U& G. [ o7 q	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser 5 H( Q. C" J+ F; H
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE4 Y' ?2 p/ f7 t1 ]5 T	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5) w3 L8 ?- D* m/ w) V; J3 ^
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited # b/ s5 o( ~1 O1 z	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE 6 I, g& I- S h# B! z
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner / N' ^# [0 C! J/ e3 t$ J( e$ q0 e	• 1987 Toyota Van DX2 V0 ?0 m2 X, H) R( N8 }5 Y
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE % E7 D* b& x# I1 h	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window 9 Y2 i8 e' _) p! r' ~9 ^' W
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5& L3 f/ i; R8 R7 G9 U	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton : a; e: ^7 r7 Z9 \
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE/ Q$ c$ g9 w& Q' s* m- t+ z0 R0 P. ^	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5; H( g' m# W" l, j
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL) v/ a! A# x6 T) D	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX. X( c( }$ b( h- F# @# W
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner $ y/ \|1 V" U- q$ } R( J6 Z	• 1987 Toyota Tercel # z) f3 N5 {1 \|! d
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE / l: w, {# w& _+ t9 m9 \|	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX , l2 [9 f% s ]; T2 K
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 , u9 j; ~) X5 Y" q9 U/ A	• 1987 Toyota Van LE( E5 E6 V1 t, Q( R3 z9 l( o+ }
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE ! [# ~6 r1 D d8 {' C, Q	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel$ d/ P, m$ C9 \|! j
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE + c Z2 A4 E- f# u	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX! \|) E% k7 `7 c- h6 {- g5 {1 ?7 L
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma 7 B" a! N: q; a9 ]/ m: U3 l8 S6 e8 @	• 1987 Toyota Pickup ' F/ w- ^3 R2 m5 W0 b' x' ?
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS ' s+ Z" n. _- O: \|) q! p1 q	• 1986 Toyota Van LE8 n- Q( i( Q# K- q% n* X3 t! m: K
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE8 Y8 y6 a; }6 P2 G	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 q% @4 h% M& {5 N
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner , L2 t" E1 J( A$ a8 N% x, f	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel 3 O# A# [& w0 ^% O
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 . R0 D; ^7 \|" F0 r' O+ {$ ~$ y	• 1986 Toyota Van DX( [, c( b. L; O5 Y& ~0 L* ]$ H, B
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited 8 \& n" F( v9 u	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window + e" I6 W6 d6 A5 x9 A" I; i3 U
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE: g- [$ @; t1 m$ ^4 _6 {, }5 c	• 1985 Toyota Van ( H$ O; q5 ?5 b0 J- j$ T
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE8 Q0 c( g1 d( W4 G' O; ]	• 1985 Toyota Van LE / X- I6 d4 @+ F% Q! N( w
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL( S" b% @ S6 ^! S	• 1985 Toyota Van DX 6 l4 \|+ \9 p6 j
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE% w& x& Y9 B; N/ ~	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser % w6 \|, k; n+ ^2 c2 G4 _7 Y) c% \|6 E, n
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited * f+ }9 F0 D0 K! B" R' \|9 @9 r	• 1984 Toyota Van DX # `/ c4 D5 c8 j, H: k
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE( S! \, h' ?* g/ z0 S	• 1984 Toyota Supra / B* w) `4 v' v2 A
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE & O1 B* P$ _ J' E6 p	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX: N% K1 j( V5 B. f1 W. P
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE 7 n2 j* o) I" E' g	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 M1 H4 z: V' y/ K% y3 b
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited ; f8 c, v7 a/ W- m! q- o+ H# U	• 1984 Toyota Cressida 1 @: M0 e: @5 o+ {# \
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS* @- \+ {+ m6 m* p! ^ B; Q3 `	• 1984 Toyota Van 9 Z2 t: ?* P8 J/ b; ?2 ]
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE " K2 q$ P1 p8 j' e, t8 X! w8 E	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE : Q- x* [% L1 i+ Y @$ _& P1 a' O
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner & E& Q- _$ b; Q" B1 H4 p	• 1984 Toyota Van LE$ X, T( Y) r$ u) ^, a# _. P
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE- \|# t8 V; L5 w; w4 `	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE* w9 V0 K8 v. Q' n
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX7 r7 u7 o5 _9 c; [; h9 M: u	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 & j' u4 H/ [3 y3 m
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 9 o6 N, W3 ]+ U3 ?3 q5 c: }	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX- t" a; C0 [& N) i% f$ m
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE" E) `1 w/ ^$ ~8 _	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE2 e5 i4 Y# H2 f* @ p1 N: Y, ^
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE0 F& E) t6 c: x	• 1983 Toyota Supra - K/ l& b" p I4 T) {4 r
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma ' a }1 M, X% S! e/ _5 d	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser ( w9 W/ {4 }' ]+ i/ H
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL i( D$ C: s2 @* Y/ w" O. `" R' \|	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX Z5 T) X* r; o, x" B. t' j8 p
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE6 z0 t& }$ K. j0 s) r	• 1983 Toyota Cressida 6 w9 a7 L4 @) `% k- o. G* G
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner + o' X4 S/ K; R4 _	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT, C/ h+ Q% D7 C1 h: F5 d: Z
• 1998 Toyota T-100 1 H' u# h4 c& {, X/ w* u	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser % d! f$ T7 ]5 d% _8 ]% @
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited - s+ K- c) k+ s; x! O	• 1982 Toyota Cressida ) T( `" \( ~8 t- k
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE5 n' Q2 d4 k6 _- _	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX 8 g8 W& X9 G, X( w: W1 s
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 4 c7 k" a3 ?% l$ }	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST7 G( b: U: h2 Z* G5 R
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR56 B4 O* F1 k7 Z/ r' Y	• 1982 Toyota Tercel 3 N0 B' D7 x, G6 i: l& O$ X2 C
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX5 J* ^0 s8 k4 \|	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 & F: t2 O7 k4 U! X1 [
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma + j) s# P! z" \| B	• 1981 Toyota Tercel 6 h9 S r8 `! v3 m5 r
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS/ W( q) r$ \|! h, U( e	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 . o8 T/ V. o1 h) J! \|$ g. S# Q
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX' d/ f! [# u: {* r( y7 L0 }	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser + L3 J, M. v8 G1 J" W
• 1997 Toyota T-100 0 s9 a$ w' b) F9 z x8 q l	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX " C% Q6 S( t) _0 @
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited- P/ S( n# K) s2 R1 S	• 1981 Toyota Cressida 5 w: j" k/ i5 s$ S* @* i
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE; K" g# {; V: V/ P	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT . F8 i0 t7 ^( x' ~4 ^
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5: C( Y& c) T) E* ?% ?( ]* n	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 8 [7 ?8 P& z. X" j* E0 T: O
• 1997 Toyota Corolla	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser * o$ s( y5 [9 k- `7 ]3 ^% O4 }
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR50 W, j; x3 }' {7 j! B$ [) g	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe / G3 g; p! l7 L
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL . X) U. ]( J+ a& ~- v	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX& \7 F) K2 i+ U! D
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE # G( l3 n3 X' L. ]4 k; {! [7 L	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST4 E- R& R+ e; D4 {" G
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner / ^9 I$ x- C# z	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury : p/ h1 O p* M$ d0 ^0 b \
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE & I- I" \9 Z1 \|$ N, `3 Z	• 1980 Toyota Tercel y$ ?/ a8 h4 M0 `, m
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE b: g6 a! ^+ v2 w$ F/ M* f( S	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5* {0 a& u- a, m* v% K. H5 h% }
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX ' t+ Q& {- y V- d4 \|' Q* B	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe0 {. g* N7 R& E9 R& M. e
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE' J r0 B# d2 o8 r! R* Q) z	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 , ?- Y* Q7 A" z$ W8 X* \|8 U
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 * q ^5 @ x: g4 d: S" @

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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, ^8 z" ~4 O& | B& c如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
* c; @- y+ @6 M/ p: Q6 y$ u8 ]; EToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
' E/ h; L" [5 }• 1997 Toyota Camry CE. }7 _) y9 b7 l
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表 1 H3 c- S) F7 e" Y5 J7 S/ u+ O6 V
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表

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佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。2 L, l# E: Y: h" {
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由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：: F, n0 ~2 M' X0 F6 W
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1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；: K: @, b. F5 o7 `& p& f" z
2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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