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http://www.realestatetalks.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=36647
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- R7 D" e! `5 |* @6 N- Z/ u- QUnderwater Sales/Listings
1 R/ h" v5 ^- T- cI thought of starting a money loser thread of properties we know where people are going to lose money on a sale -- just so we can gauge some desperation here. We can then quantify the belief which some have that: "People won't sell if they are losing money. They will just hang on and ride it out". But these are challenging times. Of course that theory would more easily hold true for investors if the thing were cashflow positive to begin with (incl vacancies, etc). Unfortunately, bleeding $500-600/mo on a downtown 1 br with 25% down is not cool nowadays.
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2 i% @# l5 ^1 _2 B# Q X3 hThis will kind of like that flippersintrouble.blogspot.com, but for Vancouver, and of course in thread form here.5 ~9 s# F3 O) q4 i. D
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1) I know 1801 in the Ritz (1211 Melville) is one., d7 h4 A, o! \$ z r/ W
Original purchase was $469,900. + GST, PTT, commission, etc -- means a break even cost of $520k or so (+ Interest).3 X0 @2 F& E2 n0 E) ]5 r4 P
Asking price is $499k.
& @6 K9 R; o4 r8 _% ], X724sq ft with semi-decent view, air conditioned, etc. Owner is in Beverly Hills
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5 [, E D) M: M' w7 r# V2) 2002 - 909 Mainland (Yaletown Park)- |1 Y% ?& @, L% d. `
Purchased $397k.
1 u( b" h' U. @4 \: U- i+ JAdjusted Cost (PTT, Commission, legals) = $420k# x+ }* w4 G& y- C9 ^
Sold $338k2 l/ a- S6 u+ M J1 a# C2 S
Loss $82k
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% C* Z; }: K5 b6 j0 M) Y1 F( y#607 - 1408 Strathmore Mews (West One)7 i. t2 J$ @0 u
July 2008 - purchased for $850,000
5 h) K# Y8 E5 Q) }Nov 2008 - listed for $749,000
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! Y& I1 u% r- H. dUnrealized loss of $101,000 plus taxes, fees, commission, etc.0 W$ C8 b, K4 ]) b3 c
Ouch... somebody overpaid!
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kansai_92 wrote:#607 - 1408 Strathmore Mews (West One)* e8 }0 s4 F8 j' w+ z
July 2008 - purchased for $850,000
9 V) b" s* m& CNov 2008 - listed for $749,000
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Unrealized loss of $101,000 plus taxes, fees, commission, etc.
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6 c: [! g- w9 y- tAssesesed is 692k on that. With a lot of stuff going below assessed, that guy could be in a lot of pain
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Oct 2008 - listed for $799,000
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Unrealized loss of $30,000 plus taxes, fees, legals, commission, etc.5 `" o r5 e, ]. X
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6) I know 1801 in the Ritz (1211 Melville) is one.' ~; ?4 ^+ S- J' L
Original purchase was $469,900. + GST, PTT, commission, etc -- means a break even cost of $520k or so (+ Interest)." _, z7 u. h& [: Z' c
Asking price is $499k.+ N) e: d! F7 ]8 W
724sq ft with semi-decent view, air conditioned, etc. Owner is in Beverly Hills' Z G/ g, Q6 O6 S) G3 \# g
Loss if sold at asking price = $20k+
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7 |' q/ H8 H+ j2 P9 c724sq ft with semi-decent view, air conditioned, etc.
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( ?2 T3 i3 [' d, a8 d, z#307 - 36 Water Street (Terminus) Completing Dec/Jan$ x* f- Z1 K4 n$ v
Purchased for $690k April 2006
7 M6 a* d( L5 e% Y. [& `Asking $699,900 for the assignment.
E/ ]/ ~& b! D e1 mEven if they get their asking price, after commission and assignment fee they will be about $25k underwater.... from 2006 prices. ; L1 L5 w1 Z) h, y
Crazy.
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573 St Giles Rd (Glenmore, West Vancouver).
- q& ~; z( e1 s: `- J; [; XSold 1.35M
% W5 N) f# e9 @3 Z. ?: jPurchased 1.55M September 1, 2007.
7 }5 f2 ?4 F# a% WLoss 265k+ (ptt + commission alone on that house is 65k+)1 Z5 j& ?3 |8 v2 k3 C
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: k5 i u8 ~+ n- o# O/ @$290k sold2 z2 s+ v: P" ~0 G
$289.9k sold May 10, 2007." {5 y4 _) U4 a
8 O* m/ m! S, pLost at least commission and ptt ($15k+?)
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Sold 1300k July 20075 h. {2 W0 Z- a: B6 ^; G/ M0 V, x
Asking 1225k
4 h3 R) i8 z+ t6 JLoss of 100k+ (incl ptt and commission)
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sold 225k Aug 2008- a4 j* |/ U( i" G& o) |7 Y& _" K) c
Asking 224.9k% V0 }7 f! Y$ u( E0 y* e' a$ l
Loss of 15k+ (incl ptt and commission)9 ~" ?9 _. B. @, i2 `8 P+ k0 E- d& p
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Sold 707500 Nov 2007, t# A: l+ I" G) T" b& T! A! R
Asking 648000
U4 {6 e. I& b+ X# E& zLoss of 85k+ (incl ptt and commission)
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3468 W 30th, Dunbar Vancouver
( ~8 E/ y" l/ m& H4 kSold 1.40M July 20074 B1 o; k$ R) T7 M n
Asking 1.295M
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8 h3 r7 Q5 V& C' L+ ?# Y) j" f9284 University Crest, SFU
. d- H; J) h9 F5 tSold 358k Sept 2007
2 f( O" ~- G. X( t: JAsking 349k
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; M, m+ c! O p" t' Q+ m# r8 `#110 750 W 12th Ave, Fairview
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8 x$ f4 a- e) c, `& J3 Y: uAsking 419k" m) f; G. _0 O0 y/ |( [9 F9 h$ M' i
Loss of 60k+ (incl ptt and commission)
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' o; o8 U; X5 p7 R967 Beatty St.
8 H; W& ^8 M, n y4 `4 t7 S5 kSold $565k Nov 2008
0 v# y. n$ x: w- `Purchased $650k Nov 2006, m& e: B, E' p- W
Loss of $85k (+ commission)
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6 ^& J5 `& K) I `301-3333 W 4th in Kits- x* [8 \/ l1 m
Sold $308k in Feb 2008
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1438 Seymour Mews BB, False Creek North ; q, I6 e" @& Q! f
$637k sold in March 30, 2007' f& ^9 p* O- C9 r; W7 O9 x
$630k sold in Dec 3, 2008.
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Sold $415k Nov 2007
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Both very short term owners. Flippers possibly.: w0 s |6 E6 w) @9 C3 I0 b9 [
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And of course, we can't forget about Flagship flipper guy.
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1 ^5 j5 B0 Z% P; M* I% gPre-sale contract price: $798,000
; c- M. V8 R2 W: x( h" eDeposit: $119,750" J7 u3 G6 q, c3 m) Z2 n6 R1 f- H
Asking price for assignment: $15,000' H7 F2 N) }" ^
Unrealized loss: $104,7509 D! x7 h' n z- B7 u: [* X
$ |% z; v: n0 h( Q6 mLook on seller's face when still no buyers show up: priceless, `3 T- \- e$ ]3 `; V2 c+ S
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#1610 - 928 Beatty St.! ~9 |% R' x6 o: [
Purchased $380k. (in October 2006): `$ p$ ?6 i' j8 r
Sold $363k5 b8 N# b9 K" \ L' F" t
Loss $17k* U3 w2 p( `+ T. ]2 X7 m
6 e1 ^( k6 R! x% ^2 ^* [; xSold below October 2006 price. Interestingly, this unit sold in May 2006 for $365,000. So one could argue that some sellers are willing to let units go for May 2006 prices. WOW. % U$ e1 F- u7 a. u5 q: f! B6 R
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Some posters on this forum speak of crystal balls... real estate in Vancouver is looking more like a time machine! How far back in time do you think we'll go? 0 {0 T* c' {5 ~ H1 B# x
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#607 - 1408 Strathmore Mews+ L( Q8 v7 ^% J% h
Purchased $850k. (in April 2008)) R- L( { L, o/ F* Q
Sold $720k
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WOW... who was the poster that talks about Bears losing their money in the stock market. This guy did even better. If he had 10% down, he lost his entire down payment plus another $50K! Everybody loves leverage... when prices are going up. Now I see some uncomfortable swallowing from people that might not love leveraging the purchase of their assets/investments anymore.
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很多没有扣除rental,否则还是赚的
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