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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.2 t- G$ L0 c% u8 c/ y: ?7 T

( B0 x& z9 `. B7 sTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 2 Z8 s9 n0 j" m

+ |' o& `8 N4 b/ z"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. " `" W$ r8 y# h4 m: J9 A9 }- ^

6 q. I- B* y3 W! a0 S) |$ LNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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, Y+ D/ B- q* `) r' U; j"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.9 j" Y3 q; Q! r$ R9 ]5 r
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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4 k) [6 c4 @7 x- r* D7 n. j% |  aTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,; k9 \' F% \% i, X, w% L# M* ^

5 f/ }  P5 a" Z$ K/ N, o: {9 w[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。0 S8 F) \' Y5 D1 T
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。( J9 D% A& u: v1 D

. Q+ ~- H- v" R/ P' j+ t  @1 v[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
# `7 [) u6 F  a0 ]) b- u* t5 m跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

6 F% F+ O; X% S' K1 H$ R很多人都回学校深造去了
; T& D4 |8 {! W% G$ y9 Y* w+ M: e8 G4 X5 J嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
- R" g8 m2 ^# T* {Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
6 ?9 V! a* v3 ~: h( X$ a  A" s+ J( Sboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton0 P/ p3 _/ o# {. C$ T" C- a2 m, c
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
* k4 S, [' H2 l" N2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
! k6 T0 R7 |: o+ I: U4 aformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
$ u3 `6 @9 m0 jfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
1 ~( M" {9 B$ W3 ithe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and0 u: G6 j( A3 {  O& _/ d* B
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous4 h% v6 q  m4 n. E1 o* P
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed6 q0 e% ^) c6 ~% k2 {2 n8 v4 N
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
5 i% n$ j7 P2 E' [- w% qto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year6 P) J3 {! g7 x' }, p. n# J, }+ H2 m
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
% l: \# d) Z* W' z- s2 }+ H1 h4 @; kyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
8 i4 Q7 M" P5 Z4 V5 X1 w. G/ D% Phomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
  ~& _1 q2 @  K& i30,000 new households will form in the province during
8 F+ H% {4 h4 d8 i9 T0 H% Z/ Q2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
( i5 {7 W2 X4 e' U3 J9 iEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s; {6 A7 D% J. ?
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
1 n  ?0 k4 u1 `' p1 Oduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
# P6 z; M+ ^1 A1 T. G7 S: |# dhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new, v- z: r# w' H$ ]) F/ q
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals& z8 K" B' J1 N1 F* N. k
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging' n3 _" p, |6 P" [. K, z
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
+ ~7 B$ i3 U+ E5 u" U. ~clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
  j- z+ s$ _9 z" O  M6 X+ yexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
/ t: V! E: p3 ~% n& l3 N1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a$ T5 y4 [  {2 F9 w$ L& y
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive0 T( V1 O, x, o' ^+ t
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
) g. M& q) {# X# U! ttwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in8 y, u7 d' w! X, W& W" {
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747" V! {- {+ t  R0 J  t
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
& T& F: f1 L9 m  f7 ^! E4 Crecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the+ A' j" ^. `8 y* m5 M
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
1 F6 B/ {3 T3 Umajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories- ^- ~* J7 v$ P  l, [
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
# }+ O" B8 K/ S) C8 y1 ]4 hrapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.4 ~' O- c+ \+ J% s+ f0 A- N
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
6 C+ n" b. S1 E# W' s9 ]boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
4 @, P6 t2 ~8 m) y1 tAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
+ F0 ~7 C: _% r; [" i9 m% Ihousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced0 y1 s) J0 n" n0 Q/ z. x  H3 k% G( N
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
& i. P$ V1 y' Q& j# E( |! ^7 hprices substantially eroded affordability and, even3 g* g3 w! x  h. l4 s, V& ]
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners. i4 o" u+ B% W9 f' f6 K( `& t
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
5 y% q+ V1 i' fThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
& \7 c1 u+ i; ^. P8 Aresale price in February is evidence that past prices7 l4 C, w# M4 L8 N
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
3 Y* r1 s' ~' ^- thomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’2 I1 \8 o% V# [0 U; b) U  B
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
$ J  j% E# o- ?, B3 rAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%  w% s; w5 V0 r& f6 k6 Q
leg down over 2009.3 y7 d+ R' o7 m# V) a

7 z& u! `" b' L# T4 k! \2 j[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,4 v; g/ H# n& L! O0 K
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 9 C/ }; p5 o0 F+ _, S; B
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子* ^0 O9 i+ r9 e

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