Gaochao YU LU

seancanada

How did Gaochao borrow money.
' D/ V4 a6 d( P; j: c那些不愿借钱给偶的基督徒，是不是“真正的基督徒”？如果偶问你借钱，你借不借？
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, ?- p7 G8 c3 V向你借钱这么复杂的呀？不知是依据圣经哪一章哪一节？
偶不打算告诉你偶的收入和任何个人信息，只给你一个账号，而且偶也没有打算还钱，你还借吗？
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come on, 把你的房子车子全部卖掉，然后把钱全部借给偶~

不要再纠缠是借还是骗了，看看这句： 有人想要告你，要拿你的里衣，连外衣也由他拿去。

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偶不是说了吗？不要再纠缠是借还是骗了
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8 ~+ C3 I. r- i6 h& D- W现在偶不借了，偶直接求你给钱偶（没还的），你给不给？

; Y- p2 E) A1 N一点小小技巧，就可以把基督徒那道貌岸然的画皮撕个粉碎~
其实基督徒稍微真诚一点，承认自己不愿借钱，有多难呢？但他们偏偏喜欢伪君子所为，说一套做一套，打肿脸充胖子，真是令人作呕~
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! g0 k9 @& b: R8 k4 A# F' X6 tHow did Gaochao say “die 100 times”
偶早说过了，如果偶也能死而复活，偶可以一天死一百次，偶可以比耶稣伟大一百倍！

还是换个参照物吧，耶稣所受的痛苦和生孩子差不多~
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5 l5 b8 c6 x7 y& D# ], h( B至于痛苦，偶完全可以肯定偶能承受和耶稣相同的痛苦，一百倍的话，偶不能确定，

高潮

谢谢你的总结，可以看出，无论偶如何软泡硬磨，就是不能从你那里借到一分钱，偶还以为耶稣的说话很有权威呢，原来连个P都不如~
偶被耶稣骗了，太傻太天真了~

Lison67

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7 H) e4 u1 g, X( m5 D0 ~/ a不要跟邪恶的人对抗。欺骗者骗你一次，你就让他骗你多次！

seancanada

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* h0 j) M8 |; w( Z$ m不要跟邪恶的人对抗。欺骗者骗你一次，你就让他骗你多次！
( X5 B* Q4 x3 u9 Q1 ILison67 发表于 2009-9-24 20:43

1 N  g8 K! G$ EFinally, You guys draw a conclusion to yourself about your moral standard. It is a good start for you guys to realize that every body is not perfect. I do not think Gaochao always is a 邪恶的人 or a 欺骗者 (sometime maybe). But you should know you (same as  every one) can become  邪恶. Think about this question.  why you guys cannot find it by yourself?

seancanada

谢谢你的总结，可以看出，无论偶如何软泡硬磨，就是不能从你那里借到一分钱，偶还以为耶稣的说话很有权威呢，原来连个P都不如~
, `1 z; z/ X* j' n0 z2 r偶被耶稣骗了，太傻太天真了~
高潮 发表于 2009-9-24 00:13

My door is aways open to you, I have never said I do not want to lend money to you. You gave up  borrowing money yourself. bear in mind What I said to you:
I can lend you 1 cent just for fun.
I can lend you a lot with high interest for making money.
( E: w% f) U- o: vI can lend you a lot without interest as long as you prove you are poor enough.
I can refuse to lend money to you because your "borrow" is not "borrow".
I believe I have fulfilled Jesus' teaching.

高潮

My door is aways open to you, I have never said I do not want to lend money to you. You gave up  borrowing money yourself. bear in mind What I said to you:
I can lend you 1 cent just for fun.
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seancanada 发表于 2009-9-24 23:31

这四句话把耶稣的说话强奸了四次，耶稣如果知道，一定会被气得口吐白沬，晕死过去，再也活不过来了~

高潮

My door is aways open to you, I have never said I do not want to lend money to you. You gave up  borrowing money yourself. bear in mind What I said to you:
I can lend you 1 cent just for fun.
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seancanada 发表于 2009-9-24 23:31

另外，偶早说过了，为了避免你讨债、探听偶是否真穷、计算利息等的麻烦，偶不向你借钱了，偶直向你要钱，不还的，你为什么还不给钱呢？

seancanada

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Lison67 : 不要跟邪恶的人对抗。欺骗者骗你一次，你就让他骗你多次！

Finally, You guys draw a conclusion to yourself about your moral standard. It is a good start for you guys to realize that every body is not perfect. I do not think Gaochao always is a 邪恶的人 or a 欺骗者 (sometime maybe). But you should know you (same as  every one) can become  邪恶. Think about this question.  why you guys cannot find it by yourself?

seancanada

另外，偶早说过了，为了避免你讨债、探听偶是否真穷、计算利息等的麻烦，偶不向你借钱了，偶直向你要钱，不还的，你为什么还不给钱呢？
7 E3 [" S1 w" D' h$ t) F  Z高潮 发表于 2009-9-25 00:38

I do not feel 麻烦. I would be  very happy If I can lend money to people because I can make money or help people who are in trouble.

高潮

I do not feel 麻烦. I would be  very happy If I can lend money to people because I can make money or help people who are in trouble.
8 b4 I! [/ C. s. pseancanada 发表于 2009-9-25 09:19

* N- @4 m% ?+ s; ~) c8 P  C+ l你不麻烦偶麻烦呀，你为什么还不给钱？

seancanada

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/ V6 r, W: p6 ?) I$ dlet's finalized the first question, then talk about others.
4 f0 t2 {: l5 b8 N9 _you said :那些不愿借钱给偶的基督徒，是不是“真正的基督徒”？如果偶问你借钱，你借不借？
3 r$ p/ g) T* q% e" EI am willing to lend money to you . but you do not want to borrow now. Do you agree you misunderstood Christians and Bible at this piont?
& H' M  c# q2 g+ I9 J% i$ zAfter solving this problem, you may be very rich by asking money from me.

高潮

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let's finalized the first question, then talk about others.
( P, G; U3 l6 D( X2 I& hyou said :那些不愿借钱给偶的基督徒，是不是“真正的基督徒”？如果偶问你借钱，你借不借？
I am willing to lend money to you . but ...
8 t$ g$ t' O* W: Xseancanada 发表于 2009-9-26 13:10

! H5 x: b9 M, }/ ?/ z2 E+ ]- n基督教那一套恐吓利诱对偶是不会起作用的~
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偶完全没有误解基督徒和圣经，理由如下：
' N1 `: p. U& `偶问基督徒借钱，他们拒绝的藉口五花八门，非常有才，不过目前为止，没有一人肯承认自己是不情愿借钱的，全都是装得很愿意借钱给偶的，只不过是因为种种原因不能借而已~
你问你自己，你真的是心甘情愿，无条件地借钱给偶吗？你一天工作十几个小时为了什么？
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借钱给偶很难吗？偶给出一个银行账号，基督徒往里转钱就行了~
0 J3 m, n  `# ^: c反过来，如果是偶欠了基督徒的钱，基督徒要追债呢？基督徒会不会又想出种种藉口不用偶还钱呢？高潮做梦吧，恐怕是偶逃到天边，基督徒也会追到天边！
又反过来，基督徒是不可能追到天边地往偶手里塞钱的~

看到了吧，这就是“心甘情愿、真心实意”和“装腔作势、虚情假意”的区别！
基督徒想再抵赖，再说什么不借钱或不给钱的藉口，只会令人更加恶心~

seancanada

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基督教那一套恐吓利诱对偶是不会起作用的~
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. g0 U; {* i+ G. e& t偶完全没有误解基督徒和圣经，理由如下：
  `* y3 g" P7 r  I偶问基督徒借钱，他们拒绝的藉口五花八门，非常有才，不过目前为止，没有一人肯承认自己是不情愿借钱的，全都是装得很愿意借 ...
8 I: C- N/ W3 r$ W4 U, i高潮 发表于 2009-9-26 13:36

7 e/ V( k7 {2 m# x. CThis is your words for refusing borrowing money from me 你不麻烦偶麻烦呀
. P) Q: j3 l7 m% V2 {' Ethe procedure of borrowing money from me is much simpler than applying mortgage from bank. Anybody refuses mortgage because of 麻烦?
, z* b2 E& x5 L: [) S" t, ^, y1 Wexplanation of :borrow" from dictionary :
/ _% c0 k5 V3 y$ z/ nborrow[ˈbɒrəʊ]
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) g! t; }3 C4 y: B1 z: [# o7 _to obtain or receive (something, such as money) on loan for temporary use, intending to give it, or something equivalent or identical, back to the lender

高潮

This is your words for refusing borrowing money from me 你不麻烦偶麻烦呀
the procedure of borrowing money from me is much simpler than applying mortgage from bank. Anybody refuses mortgage because  ...
" g8 P/ ]: W6 C3 {seancanada 发表于 2009-9-26 15:43

( l0 T% w, W+ ^" J借钱就是比给钱麻烦，这还有什么好争的？还是你在顾左右而言它，转移视线？

seancanada

Every one can see you lost  this round. Your Comrade even call you a 邪恶的人 or a 欺骗者 . What a pity.  I also found you are still very young from you words. Take your time to come to Jesus.

高潮

Every one can see you lost  this round. Your Comrade even call you a 邪恶的人 or a 欺骗者 . What a pity.  I also found you are still very young from you words. Take your time to come to Jesus.
8 v6 F" T1 [9 ^seancanada 发表于 2009-9-26 21:53

什么“lost”、“邪恶”、“欺骗”、“young”乱七八糟的，偶不在乎，你喜欢怎么说都行~
不过你到底愿不愿意给钱？

seancanada

什么“lost”、“邪恶”、“欺骗”、“young”乱七八糟的，偶不在乎，你喜欢怎么说都行~
- `! D, @$ J) B% d不过你到底愿不愿意给钱？
高潮 发表于 2009-9-26 23:36

I care. It depends on your attitude to :那些不愿借钱给偶的基督徒，是不是“真正的基督徒”？如果偶问你借钱，你借不借？

高潮

I care. It depends on your attitude to :那些不愿借钱给偶的基督徒，是不是“真正的基督徒”？如果偶问你借钱，你借不借？
8 j- N1 F8 D  Kseancanada 发表于 2009-9-26 23:46

耶稣没有说，是否给钱还要“depends on  attitude”，
这是你自己在耶稣话话上加上的条款吧！也就是不给钱的藉口，什么attitude是你自己说了算，所以，给不给钱，也是你自己说了算，
2 \: x: }9 b) z因此，你读圣经有什么用呢，不如你自己写本圣经算了~

seancanada

耶稣没有说，是否给钱还要“depends on  attitude”，
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- @8 p; T0 `0 F0 d/ w3 l6 t3 E  W因此，你读圣经有什么用呢， ...
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please see my context. I just want to know your attitude for your previous statement :那些不愿借钱给偶的基督徒，是不是“真正的基督徒”？如果偶问你借钱，你借不借？
Then I may give you  money if you ask.

高潮

那就先看看你的上下文：

After reading Bible, I learnt that the people, who claim they are Christians, are not necessarily real Christians because God may not like their behaviors. You are supposed to see those descriptions in Bible many times.
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8 I% |0 R+ J0 v7 W% Z$ H3 D1 y- dSo you may not argue with real Christians. If your conclusion about Christianity is from fake Christians, do not you feel it is unfair for God? How do you know God agreed with those "Christians" who persecuted some scientists in the history?
p.s. God showed me his existence when I decide to believe in Christianity. So I was serious at that moment.
seancanada 发表于 2009-9-10 00:12

% a5 z" Y; ], R4 s请你自己说说，你是如何判断别人是不是“real Christians”的呢？你的“real Christians”标准是什么？
如果你所认为的“fake Christians”也认为你才是“fake Christians”，他自己才是“real Christians”呢？谁说了算？
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3 C: [( `) V9 f! |' n4 J8 |6 f所以偶才问你呀，那些不愿借钱给偶的基督徒，是不是“真正的基督徒”？因为他们连耶稣的说话也不听，还有脸指责别人是"fake Christians"!
: J0 s7 P( R" }你说这样的基督徒是不是虚伪无耻之极？

seancanada

那就先看看你的上下文：
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请你自己说说，你是如何判断别人是不是“real Christians”的呢？你的“real Christians”标准是什么？
如果你所认为的“fake Christians”也认为你才是“fake Christians”，他自己才是 ...
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4 [# c; S2 ]1 W5 a/ bI notice You said "那些". Do you mean not all Christian are fake? Some of them are good as long as they are willing to lend money to you?

高潮

I notice You said "那些". Do you mean not all Christian are fake? Some of them are good as long as they are willing to lend money to you?
seancanada 发表于 2009-9-27 15:32

. R  s; a( E% X9 D8 I, ?6 K偶不知道判断基督徒真伪的标准是什么，所以偶才问你，你不会也不知道吧？
$ B& V6 ]3 R" E不过你不知道也不奇怪，基督教本来就分成N多门派，相互之间还争论不休，更别提天主教等也读圣经的其它宗教了~
9 o9 p) A* Q" C9 M; h6 H不过，谁听耶稣说话，谁不听耶稣说话，偶还是能判断的~
( m+ c- w5 j5 ^; \, x: s& U你说说你自己，是不是个听话的好孩子？

seancanada

Just answer yes or no.

高潮

Do you mean not all Christian are fake?  就个偶无从判断，因为你没有给出标准。
Some of them are good as long as they are willing to lend money to you?  no,理由同上，你先给出good的标准~

seancanada

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那些不愿借钱给偶的基督徒，是不是“真正的基督徒”？如果偶问你借钱，你借不借？
# m( K1 P1 H; i0 u1 D: uthis is your standard. You already have it. so yes or no.

高潮

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, `0 [" s  p  k! J( K5 s2 h1 n那些不愿借钱给偶的基督徒，是不是“真正的基督徒”？如果偶问你借钱，你借不借？
, F5 B, e0 L5 Y! S2 A  ~this is your standard. You already have it. so yes or no.
seancanada 发表于 2009-9-27 18:12

这句是偶对你提问，你还没有回答偶呢，你现在可以答吗？

seancanada

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# `! x. Z8 _: a) V: ~do you mean you are not testing me and other Christians. You  just want to know the answer?

高潮

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/ T( N- Q3 U* U8 edo you mean you are not testing me and other Christians. You  just want to know the answer?
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I ust want to know the answer， and get some money from you~

seancanada

I believe you already have the answer for this question.

seancanada

I believe you already have the answer for this question now.