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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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  z, B2 u# n, n) @. t( l/ UBilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane6 x" T/ Q4 p$ A( G, K7 \8 N, J
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"+ v( y! J! C: i, z; U6 A) T9 q
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
8 m( B/ y. n6 l0 l5 Z8 D; ~葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:; I; t8 k, c' K" G0 }
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
8 e2 j5 K% O$ ~她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.- T( t+ @6 M: {
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,. _3 O( f. ^  w# w
but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,0 s, o& J! g0 d
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.* m# W$ O7 M& E7 s6 y. s
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
" k% u; z8 k  l9 PHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection" L( {1 W+ J1 c* p, e# z
if we demand He leave us alone?"
3 N, M! O0 t2 |『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
1 M2 n( j. O! Q6 l只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
3 }) o, U4 w% r' h5 m不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。% E' ~2 F) Q; u; V
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。
4 {9 n3 ]4 A$ N# q$ x  x0 ?6 t9 c我們既然強令祂遠離我們,
) X: P6 Y8 {7 s1 [又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』8 M' u. ~4 L: f; n. Y
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.: p0 Z- y# E) n
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
; v' N3 b, i/ k4 ^her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our0 K% X% x. p2 G0 Z
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
2 W; I. J4 U9 `. o& o* ]; Sschool...
7 W6 ^7 T- O; y% K2 wthe Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
! m$ R2 U3 t' y" x4 p: c. N& Vand love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK." ~. W# R; N$ D. A
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
/ j' y+ K& c- Q' d! [我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
- c2 g& k6 Q( E& f2 I8 E(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
. Q8 k. i6 P' N! J最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、9 k7 E7 J. L; ^/ @6 x- Q
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children3 J* F# }6 P& L1 K9 \8 [
when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped$ Z9 @- T7 O- W6 J. Y3 b' f
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed* g9 Y& x, X2 I! s9 Z% N5 N: I
suicide)
! j8 X+ _2 C1 W& rWe said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.( V, s5 m/ S" G! o: U  a$ G) A
然後Benjamin Spock博士說,! ?, D3 d6 y% V0 V3 ]" e
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,9 f$ o" V6 u' {9 m5 `' N
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊1 d& E! Z) ?; ?4 o4 P7 n- G
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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0 ^: K, a- E9 a9 S& c% {Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our
# i2 k4 _" V2 p" ?6 Q% nchildren when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member; b6 Z+ N$ L, J; _
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave
, f( x) E$ B% }3 ^' \3 E% Bbecause we don 't want any bad publicity,; A/ J6 x+ @9 z0 \0 H0 Z2 Q
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
8 S! A% f* I4 ?' t, B$ g7 g7 |between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,4 c9 o3 f& Y6 x# w  {
etc.). And we said OK.
4 J4 Z. H6 A" A- E& r2 _/ J然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,6 z9 f! q% @5 |5 G7 J  F/ v5 a
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,; c) i8 b$ R# B2 U
教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
7 t- s. Y0 _  [/ e8 A4 E- \4 i: v8 t$ S更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),8 M1 h9 V% k$ C
而大家同意了。, O. ?4 b4 s$ I8 E' \' j" V; p" E
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,
. P- |0 X4 i* H9 @$ Wand they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK." r/ n9 a) r8 Y
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys/ b8 e$ u2 A0 e; T3 L
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms( x3 D+ p5 ~" A$ j" l0 U
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,
0 L& c/ Y  C9 X- c* q* j, U' c. uand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
6 S( m# G/ ~2 \- Isaid OK.
; W  D9 G/ k* b4 p. w然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
6 b  y0 K5 s6 G5 @) E6 k% o2 L- X甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
- w. ^$ n6 t" R然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
0 b# S- \  h( O他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
5 Z# x/ R; |  c- C& ?2 N/ {9 y& a好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
; ^# q# ]2 i( Q$ j$ R5 u4 u! N6 g他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。- W5 p3 q% d( r: y' M
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Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter: ^& q6 L- B% i* q( i$ [7 G
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,  x$ n0 V/ p* k6 V' X, d3 ^
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,4 ~1 Q  Y1 @( o# O# B" S1 M
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.) Z& O1 ?. m" i, c+ j( Q
然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,. M, `, n# E9 S. f, {' y2 }
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,2 T5 O7 u; y8 [0 q
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >. _/ r! A1 p: G6 D  [
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。2 D4 Y3 S  J( H1 [# D
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+ n6 ~8 E. D. }' |: d& ?Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women) ~8 c3 y9 p5 H( M2 E
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty) w/ Q5 D: \" t- G
of the female body. And we said OK.- ]4 ?. ~; B4 x! ]& j
然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
. c6 {8 S. K5 ^稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
$ @/ U1 ?- i) t! Opublished pictures of nude children and then further again* D) e) z: I# D1 V2 f! X6 R3 h
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
6 u( o0 r$ i2 {# Qthey're entitled to free speech.- s4 v4 o) X, u
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,
- B; _8 ~/ S8 L9 d5 V甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
. j1 u" B( j) ^; A4 G% J  o他們這樣做是言論自由。( H3 ^  h+ Z$ J- R- Z2 _" s
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
& m& q; i: U  l4 F. U3 Q9 othat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music$ {- f9 p: p+ _- v) i
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
+ f& q# P; v( X" ]- v' JAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
$ r! _- e# _" @1 I6 r/ onobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.8 Z5 Y/ w+ g: @' P- O
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
, v) _: z4 U# L不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、/ Y0 j( J' p0 O
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
; x0 M8 ~- S" ^& \) ^* l那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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7 `1 K1 g6 o% D9 |% K, eNow we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
4 @5 ]! K1 P+ l7 @; c2 ewhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
5 @) ^* K  \  H7 |to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
: F: m8 a7 B+ Y& ?' hif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.  v6 |8 {9 n# a' j8 Q) e( i
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
$ \4 c0 i* m$ s如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
( t- J0 P* c+ T0 C為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
1 ^4 L4 R$ q; o  o  K# `為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
! D+ \$ W4 s1 G$ G3 _, F假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。* C$ S( k7 t) C, @- y# s
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。- ]+ O7 N  }5 W4 p

2 y" Y; H) C" m( nFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
8 [3 y1 v, ~( D, |7 dwhy the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
1 U9 c" d  g; ssay, but question what the Bible says.
6 _( b% W$ u3 W( k0 o實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。( G7 D, c" y/ k1 _4 _. p( g
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。( D4 X* H& r. P) J4 Q

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1 x8 a: [, T$ f5 qFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like  D* R4 Z+ G- B0 [+ q% H8 m  m
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,' |& P: ^& @5 X& C+ Z- X
people think twice about sharing.
3 t' F1 h( L7 \$ k實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
" [7 w2 K: F2 {2 H但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,: Z4 g% X* l4 w; [* V# w
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。# y; L' e: j& ]# q( W/ T( |) H

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1 A. g0 R& Q* Z$ mFunny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely- o5 v1 f5 X) `5 ~) e# J. t
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed  j" o# x. T* a1 Y2 A8 m& I
in the school and workplace.
0 P9 j$ m% E6 h實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
* U* R$ h8 r( [& c- p! K  j透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
8 Q; h! b/ e/ n7 k  O- n而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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0 M7 G' u4 Z. wAre you laughing?
- I/ s8 ~, A% S) s; s你笑了嗎?
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' o7 w! e5 T! R2 o4 P0 z6 {* FFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
& n& q" A$ P& W0 jto many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe," N" {) V& H$ F- m
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.
  L" X' k1 x- D7 O$ a9 p" UFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
9 {% |+ t  Q2 C, z( o7 o$ dthan what God thinks of us.
9 E$ I% t. N; D8 w4 R" b好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,8 x" c6 m9 f$ M/ t+ Z$ f
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,( g$ v8 \6 a3 F4 K1 T
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。5 S6 D# N& j1 l1 h
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
/ u& Q1 o+ T0 O* A" U/ x* L而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。: R  P+ l6 d1 |' g2 k& x

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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...' B+ O9 F& q. D( L3 T% l/ n
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't0 y$ V$ }. B, [0 I
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
7 {- l' d, E5 K/ D6 l- ^4 d把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話
8 k3 n6 A( \7 q1 ~! ^若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
3 l1 i, T3 p/ I4 I8 d+ e% S8 Q但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
; k3 `' p% n, d4 O# x3 z你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
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鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.( ?, B% {8 e$ R+ i

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上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
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发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。3 g2 h, p% s) I" @# ~
  May God bless you!
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发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
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有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。. V9 k) t- u# q$ Y8 d
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了; P: w( `: j& n6 c, u
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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