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警告贴: 大统华卖的越南产 龙利鱼(BASA)

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发表于 2012-2-26 15:36 | 显示全部楼层
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cpc 发表于 2012-2-26 13:26
4 `3 ^( r' s8 C# z( p7 ^5 I$ N7 ~) jnever eat BASA anymore after the discussion in chaguan.
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Basa 根本就不是龍脷魚,而是 鱸魚;不全在風險的問題。5 y  t9 }9 N% ?! _( v; i( m
而 龍脷魚 也不是問題。, t; E9 F% \# [
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但用 pangasius fish 來冒充 basa 就是個大問題;basa 絕對不會是這個價錢。0 F4 R! O4 F$ r* n
所以也不能說是 越南出口的錯。我剛剛看過,人家真的大字標着 pangasius fish, 加入用作魚蛋的材料就差不多。直接吃或熬粥給孩子吃就有點過份了。
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补充内容 (2012-2-26 19:18):7 X" \, t$ a1 [3 a' D) t
basa 我们叫作 鲶鱼。(sorry
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sorry,  Basa 我们叫作 鲶鱼。
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-2-26 16:12 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 爱网观察员 于 2012-2-26 16:21 编辑 % ^# K8 ~, i* a6 B" n

) g+ Q( x: D" U& b2 q% K" v看来:市面上(包括大统华)卖的 标名为龙利鱼或英文basa 的鱼,其实就是臭名昭著并且为美国法国等一些国家禁止进口的Pangas 或 Pangasius 冒充的,所以,不建议食用。这样理解对吗?* [. ]# Y$ t3 A$ ^) {3 {8 `
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引起混淆的名称: Pangas (also called, Pangasius, Vietnamese River Cobbler, Basa Fish and White Catfish, Tra, Gray Sole)) `/ D4 x% j. t  L2 b$ i  H+ k+ j

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Don’t Eat this fish: Pangas (Pangasius, Vietnamese River Cobbler, White Catfish, Gray Sole)
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Cheap cheap fish! The above is an ad (from one of the large supermarket chains in France) for the fish known as Pangas (also called, Pangasius, Vietnamese River Cobbler, Basa Fish and White Catfish, Tra, Gray Sole). It was a reminder to tell you about the dangers of this strange but increasingly popular fish. I learned about them and how they’re raised a while ago on an informative documentary online here: Documentary about Pangas. (which is in French. If you don’t speak French, read below.) - B6 o' N2 S# ?& M$ R4 z* M' O
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Would the French call it Poisson ou poison?
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  Y& V! i. _4 g( ?Industrially farmed in Vietnam along the Mekong River, Pangas or whatever they’re calling it, has only been recently introduced to the French market. However, in a very short amount of time, it has grown in popularity in France. The French are slurping up Pangas like it’s their last meal of soup noodles. They are very, very affordable (cheap), are sold in filets with no bones and they have a neutral (bland) flavor and texture; many would compare it to cod and sole, only much cheaper. But as tasty as some people may find it, there’s, in fact, something hugely unsavory about it. I hope the information provided here will serve as very important information for you and your future choices. Here’s why I think it is better left in the shops (and not on your dinner plates):" T5 Q( C( X5 @3 q0 A% q
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* P" t4 N" x  f  s- \1 O& q1. Pangas are teeming with high levels of poisons and bacteria. (industrial effluents, arsenic, and toxic and hazardous by-products of the growing industrial sector, polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), DDT and its metabolites (DDTs), metal contaminants, chlordane-related compounds (CHLs), hexachlorocyclohexane isomers (HCHs), and hexachlorobenzene (HCB)). The reasons are that the Mekong River is one of the most polluted rivers on the planet and this is where pangas are farmed and industries along the river dump chemicals and industrial waste directly into it. To Note: a friend lab tests these fish and tells us to avoid eating them due to high amounts of contamination. Regardless of the reports and recommendations against selling them, the supermarkets still sell them to the general public knowing they are contaminated.3 i- F0 N( R# t' b) R' T

$ _5 G8 F- q' a8 D2. They freeze Pangas in contaminated river water. Ew.
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3. Pangas are not environmentally sustainable, a most unsustainable food you could possibly eat – “Buy local” means creating the least amount of environmental harm as possible. This is the very opposite end of the spectrum of sustainable consumerism. Pangas are raised in Vietnam. Pangas are fed food that comes from Peru (more on that below), their hormones (which are injected into the female Pangas) come from China. (More about that below) and finally, they are transported from Vietnam to France. That’s not just a giant carbon foot print, that’s a carbon continent of a foot print.* [) e7 Q5 r* }1 o* z% a6 r! t5 D
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4. There’s nothing natural about Pangas – They’re fed dead fish remnants and bones, dried and ground into a flour, from South America, manioc (cassava) and residue from soy and grains. This kind of nourishment doesn’t even remotely resemble what they eat in nature. But what it does resemble is the method of feeding mad cows (cows were fed cows, remember?) What they feed pangas is completely unregulated so there are most likely other dangerous substances and hormones thrown into the mix. The pangas grow at a speed light (practically!): 4 times faster than in nature…so it makes you wonder what exactly is in their food? Your guess is as good as mine.
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5. Pangas are Injected with Hormones Derived from Urine – I don’t know how someone came up with this one out but they’ve discovered that if they inject female Pangas with hormones made from the dehydrated urine of pregnant women, the female Pangas grow much quicker and produce eggs faster (one Panga can lay approximately 500,000 eggs at one time). Essentially, they’re injecting fish with hormones (they come all of the way from a pharmaceutical company in China) to speed up the process of growth and reproduction. That isn’t good. Some of you might not mind eating fish injected with dehydrated pee so if you don’t good for you, but just consider the rest of the reasons to NOT eat it.2 \3 k5 O, R6 T( Q6 r

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3 n  F5 Y! r9 E1 T  O7. Buying Pangas supports unscrupulous, greedy evil corporations and food conglomerates that don’t care about the health and well-being of human beings. They only are concerned about selling as many pangas as possible to unsuspecting consumers. These corporations only care about selling and making more money at whatever cost to the public.8. Pangas will make you sick – If (for reasons in #1 above) you don’t get immediately ill with vomiting, diarrhea and effects from severe food poisoning, congratulations, you have an iron stomach! But you’re still ingesting POISON not poisson.Final important note: Because of the prodigious amount of availability of Pangas, be warned that they will certainly find their way into other foods: surimi (those pressed fish things, imitation crab sticks), fish sticks, fish terrines, and probably in some pet foods. (Warn your dogs and cats and hamsters and gerbils and even your pet fish!)
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-2-26 16:14 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 爱网观察员 于 2012-2-26 16:15 编辑 + }$ M; M7 {8 N* i% T% k

% B- `3 B( f! g; Z这里是原文链接, 内容更为丰富详实:' b; j: ]9 B( X. H  }$ n
http://www.dietmindspirit.org/2008/01/30/why-you-shouldnt-eat-this-fish-pangas-pangasius-vietnamese-river-cobbler-white-catfish-gray-sole/3 b: d  |+ J2 e; b
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发表于 2012-2-26 16:53 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2012-2-26 16:57 | 显示全部楼层
那到底就是basa没问题,而Pangasius不行这样?但是我感觉很多人对basa都是吃否定态度的。。
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发表于 2012-2-26 18:09 | 显示全部楼层
怎么办,刚吃了所谓的垃圾鱼Pangasius,我先吐会去。。。
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发表于 2012-2-26 18:25 | 显示全部楼层
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刚从大统华买了2包,因为觉得给孩子吃起来方便,没刺,还容易做,特意给孩子买的,根本没想过便宜没好货或者食品安全的问题,这下好了全得扔垃圾箱了。以后再也不买了
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发表于 2012-2-26 21:10 | 显示全部楼层
在唐人街的好运来超市我也有买,呜。。。。
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死啦死啦!因为不会做所以从来没买过。上周刚买了一包,也是因为想着容易煮给宝宝吃。那downtown鸟巢的自助午餐里的水煮鱼还能不能吃啊?(时常都去那里去解馋)
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发表于 2012-2-27 12:30 | 显示全部楼层
刚吃了两条进肚子
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发表于 2012-2-27 12:30 | 显示全部楼层
刚吃了两条进肚子
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发表于 2012-2-27 13:19 | 显示全部楼层
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本帖最后由 架鸡棚 于 2012-2-27 13:55 编辑
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白马啸西枫 发表于 2012-2-27 12:30
5 s; ~" o" _" O6 g$ q; V刚吃了两条进肚子
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8 B( y" P  G& J: D- K现在赶紧去吐出来还来得及,还没消化呢。
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- c6 B3 J. }2 U: l7 w巴萨的球可以看, 鱼不能吃.
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发表于 2012-2-27 14:32 | 显示全部楼层
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本帖最后由 Ally 于 2012-2-27 14:34 编辑 : T8 {% ?+ g3 }: Q1 R6 \

" V! L3 A/ N. m 可没少买过,还让孩子吃呢。我还纳闷怎么和safeway相差那么多呢。谢谢楼主!
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发表于 2012-2-27 14:33 | 显示全部楼层
我在safeway买过,贵很多,是加拿大产的
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发表于 2012-2-27 16:15 | 显示全部楼层
大统华的多少钱一袋啊。。。我也从SAVE WAY买的,一大包,900来克的那种。。。
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发表于 2012-2-27 17:19 | 显示全部楼层
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本帖最后由 马甲 于 2012-2-27 17:22 编辑 : m. m3 U. _( g9 M3 g- V% I$ A6 b; |
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一群文盲讨论BASA鱼柳。LZ贩卖的那一套是美国Catfish协会散布的谣言。
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* r& C9 x$ Y6 f% i: ~# I0 {9 j美国Catfish协会的鱼又贵又难吃,竞争不过东南亚的鱼柳,只好借助贸易保护主义,规定只有美国产的鱼才能叫“catfish”,东南亚的鱼只好改名BASA。就是这样Catfish养殖协会的catfish还是竞争不过,只好雇人网上散布谣言。
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发表于 2012-2-27 17:55 | 显示全部楼层
经常买这种鱼吃,今天到冰箱找到了一包,丢了,还有一包是safeway买的,不知道能不能吃,丢了又捡起来来,听大家的意见看能不能吃。
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发表于 2012-2-27 18:19 | 显示全部楼层
不吃河鱼的飘过0 L' ^; F; n( i* ]+ |; H2 R
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发表于 2012-2-27 18:30 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2012-2-27 19:37 | 显示全部楼层
什么是权威的结论?
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发表于 2012-2-27 19:45 | 显示全部楼层
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刚看了看从Safeway 买的, 也是越南产的。
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发表于 2012-2-27 21:23 | 显示全部楼层
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LZ是不是觉得以大统华为标题更能吸引点击率啊 这么多大型超市都卖类似的鱼 而且加拿大相关部门也不会这么废物吧
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发表于 2012-2-27 23:10 | 显示全部楼层
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谢谢楼主!感谢之余开始苦恼,不知该吃什么好了?
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发表于 2012-2-28 00:10 | 显示全部楼层
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thanks ,no more basa
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发表于 2012-2-28 06:57 | 显示全部楼层
我表示慎重。
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大家应该花点时间,找官方的网站或信息,看到底是怎么一回事。
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既不应该忽视可能很重要的信息,也不应该轻信未经证实的信息。
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发表于 2012-2-28 07:26 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2012-2-28 11:31 | 显示全部楼层
现在国内超市也有这种龙利鱼柳卖,30几块一斤。
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发表于 2012-2-28 14:22 | 显示全部楼层
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kingsnake 发表于 2012-2-26 15:36
' k1 i2 M  I) L4 \0 q( LBasa 根本就不是龍脷魚,而是 鱸魚;不全在風險的問題。, r% i' J, R) v; J
而 龍脷魚 也不是問題。

9 s* H4 m/ R. D" K$ u, l前天去TNT,看到他们正在往冰柜里上鱼柳,中文价签是龙利鱼柳,英语价签是BASA,但是那个装货的纸箱子上,很大的字写着:pangasius fish,价签上,包装上都没有这个单词。不知道TNT是故意这么做还是无意的。
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发表于 2012-2-28 14:27 | 显示全部楼层
cpc 发表于 2012-2-28 14:22
- `( r9 ^7 W/ q0 D2 A0 b0 K前天去TNT,看到他们正在往冰柜里上鱼柳,中文价签是龙利鱼柳,英语价签是BASA,但是那个装货的纸箱子上,很 ...

0 Q: G& ]& c) I& `* q哈哈。 龍脷是海魚,怎的游上了湄公河啦。6 m7 r7 q# ?6 R5 w& [: k( b$ m
這麽笨的一條魚,難怪會賣得這麽便宜
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